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Registered: December 13, 2003
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Question:
is anyone vegan here?

Choices:
yup!
no!
vegetarian!

 
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Q: Should I cut down on meat and eat more fruits and vegetables?
A: You must grasp logistical efficiencies. What does a cow eat? Hay and corn. And what are these? Vegetables. So a steak is nothing more than an efficient mechanism of delivering vegetables to your system. Need grain? Eat chicken. Beef is also a good source of field grass (green leafy vegetable). And a pork chop can give you 100% of your recommended daily allowance of vegetable products.


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Registered: September 11, 2004
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No, but I have a great amount of respect for vegans and vegetarians. ^-^

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Registered: October 06, 2004
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quote:
Originally posted by berenelen:
[QUOTE] Since when are fruits not plants? Bauhaus, not only is your logic off, but your kindergarden education is as well.


Fruits are made to be eaten. First off its not exactly connected the plant itself, it doesn't kill the plant. Second, plants naturally put seeds in their fruit in order for animals/mammals to eat them and spread the seeds in that way.QUOTE]

That is totally correct, and whats more, cotton, cereals, and root vegetables are not harvested until after the death of the plant (which is why wheat is tannish, Bogey)


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Registered: July 15, 2004
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Since when are fruits not plants? Bauhaus, not only is your logic off, but your kindergarden education is as well.


Fruits are made to be eaten. First off its not exactly connected the plant itself, it doesn't kill the plant. Second, plants naturally put seeds in their fruit in order for animals/mammals to eat them and spread the seeds in that way. Technically, fruitarian is the ULTIMATE cruelty free lifestyle, and you can live a healthy lifestyle on fruits. I know someone who's been a fruitarian for years and they are chipper. http://www.fruitarian.com/ for more info.

I however LOVE food and don't think I could be devoted to the fruitarian cause, but I do think fruitarians do have some pretty good reasoning behind their lifestyle.


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Registered: August 06, 2002
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Your problem earthgoddess:
Was that all you ate was Veggies. You probably consumed the veggies that don't provide loads of iron and zinc and calcium, and vitamin A. Spinach, Kale, White, red and Rainbow chard are excellent sources of these! Including legumes in your vegetarian diet is essential to having energy and your overall health. Legumes are beans, cashews, peanuts, lentils all these loaded with protein . Tofu is also filled with protein(isoflavones) and calcium.
I know of many people that go vegetarian and believe they can thrive off of salads which consist of mostly iceberg lettuce, thats the wrong way to go.
With a well BALANCED vegan/vegetarian diet is key to optimal health and energy. I've been vegan for about 4 years and vegetarian for 7 and I very healthy.No anemia ( which many people believe vegetarians are plagued with), healthy lean weight of 124. I'm just all round healthy green gal!

For all of my peoples out there who want to go the healthy compassionate route of vegetarianism, I have some advice that has kept me healthy. If nothing else try to include as much dark green leafy vegetables in you diet as often as possible.I've been having a bowl of raw spinach every day and my skin is healthyh and my immune system is stellar.
Green, Black, and Golden seal tea (sweetened with honey) is full of antioxidants
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Registered: July 28, 2003
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If we replaced every cattle ranch in the U.S. with some type of vegetable crop; hunger could be eliminated worldwide. The reason; plants use up much less space and energy for the amount of food they produce. Animal crops provide about ten times less food for the same amount of energy they consume.


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Registered: January 15, 2003
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The real issue is simple. The vegetarian and/or vegan lifestyles are much healthier. It is proven - this is not just opinion.


Whoa. That's not exacty true for everyone. I tried to eat only veggies for about a month when I was younger and I had absolutely no energy. I got sick with the flu. I had several headaches. I started eating meat again and I felt much better.

Everybody's different. Some people can eat meat and live to be 100. Some can eat veggies and live to be 50.

Now if you ate meat like my dad does (1 to 2 pounds of bacon a day, loads of beef and salmon jerky, burgers, etc.), you can't expect to live for a very long time.
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Registered: December 14, 2003
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Thus, I am not against Lysol.

I'm against lysol because the company that makes it tests on animals.
That said, I think if you don't want to use products that have had pesticides used on them (like cotton, fruits and vegetables) the best thing to do is buy organic. It's better for the animals and the plants Smile


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Registered: August 17, 2001
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I'm confused... I didn't say I was a fruitarian. Bauhaus did. But his fruitarian line is basically from the movie Notting Hill.


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Registered: August 06, 2002
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to Ikki:

I'm not gonna knock your belief, I just want you to elaborate about where you're getting sources of Iron, Protein and calcium as a frutarian? You don't eat tofu right?
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Almost as scary as your avatar


Hey now, we don't go there! jk


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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Almost as scary as your avatar Big Grin


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Yeah, almost as scary as the inconsistent argument of killing humans is okay under certain unjustified cases.


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Good, being pro-life on every way possible is scary enoguh.


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I am not saying killing fruits or vegetables is wrong. Nor am I saying that killing animals is entirely wrong. Thus, I am not against Lysol.


Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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Are you also agaisnt Lysol because it kills bacteria?


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" He said fruits that fall. So they're dead. "

Yeah, but they are still fruits. Any fruit that you eat is not connected to to its base or stem, but it is still a fruit.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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He said fruits that fall. So they're dead.


"Regardless, I have always, and will always, succeed."
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Registered: May 19, 2004
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" I dont think you understood me, I dont eat meet, and I dont kill plants. I eat what they leave behind. "Fruitarian" Nothing is harmed when I eat, so that makes me a much better vegetarian then you. "

Since when are fruits not plants? Bauhaus, not only is your logic off, but your kindergarden education is as well.

Anyways, if you did just eat FRUITS, then why would you still call yourself a VEGEtarian?


Tennis balls are green, not yellow.
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