I think Bush is arrogant and he thinks that he is better than anyone else. Which is not even true. He would have to worry when the the American people were not the ones who elected him in, the people elected Gore. I think Bush thinks he does not have to take orders form anybody, he acts like Gaston form beauty and the beast, expesially when they both said you are either with us or against us. He also is a C- student who has failed at everything he has done in life, and lets talk about affirmative action, how does a c- student get into Yale and Harvard? he gets in because grandpa and dad both were legascies. As for Bill Clinton, during his two terms the ecomony was soring and I did not have to worry about a nuclear attack because Clinton tried to keep peace in the Middle East. All pepole are mad at Clinton for is that he lied about having sex,when is that a crime, It is not a crime, and personally I do not think that the American people should have had any right to pry into his private life. That was none of our bussiness. Clinton was the best president ever,period.
bush is a decent president. clinton would have been horrible, watch Black Hawk Down if you disagree. those guys in the movie died directly because Clinton made some really bad calls. As for Al Gore, he wouldn't know what was going on.
Say what you will about Bush, but really, he beats the alternatives, and the only reason I think he isn't doing better becase everytime he wants to do something good someone comes up with some WRATGAS against him to prolong everything.
Clinton was not a better leader than anybody when he was "in" and he would not be a better leader than President Bush right now.
President Bush is a very intelligent man and he will push and push throughout the world to get us through this matter in the best possible resolution.
Clinton had a very high intellect as well, but he was too busy minding the business of his personal life to give a f'ing damn about what happened in world affairs or with our military being paid sufficiently or with homeland issues of security.
If we had paid less attention to saving money and accumulating a surplus, and doing more intensive CIA and FBI intelligence, we might have had a better result for us on Sept 11. Plus you have to bear in mind that even when President Reagan was in office, the nation received many security threats every week. We should be kept more apprised of these ongoing threats and we should all push for more intensive work effort to forestall threats.
Another thing to keep in mind is that Iraq was an issue when Clinton was in office. In fact, President Clinton was given carte blanche to do whatever he felt necessary to do with Iraq.
quote:...but not to the extreme that I call individual leaders traitors just because we have different views of government.
Sorry, but I think anyone who sells our country out to World Government, Globalist/international bankers or who has a family entrenched with arming former/current enemies (Hitler, Saddam, bin Laden, Kim in North Korea, Chinese Communists, etc.) should A) not be trusted ever and B) should be called a traitor and hanged.
Yes, extreme, but in the words of Barry Goldwater:
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice."
Oh, and brooke, you said you were in D.C.? I need to get in touch with you, because I'm planning on attending a journalism seminar at Georgetown U. in July.
quote:i believe that bush and his bosses were horrified by 9/11. but they're certainly using it to their advantage.
Damn right they're using it to their advantage; the Patriot Act was created in 1995 - it couldn't and wouldn't pass when Clinton was president.
350+ Congressmen didn't even get to read the dang thing before it passed - you better believe the Bush Administration is using it to their advantage.
Besides, the Bush Administration, along with Clinton, had a direct involvement with funding, training, protecting and making SURE those terrorists hit those twin towers and the Pentagon.
If you think I'm "extreme," look the damn stuff up yourself.
It's all there for the people with eyes to see.
If you really don't believe me, research this stuff yourself. Bush isn't going after the terrorists people.
He IS a terrorist.
So is Clinton. So is Bush I. So was FDR. So was Lincoln. So was Carter. So was Nixon, LBJ...
No, I don't think those are impeacahble offenses. They might be bad political decisions with which we disagree, but they're hardly acts of treason.
No one in Washington is talking impeachment because they know that it simply isn't a realistic possibility. I'm also a libertarian, but not to the extreme that I call individual leaders traitors just because we have different views of government. Why not worry more about systemic issues than individuals who you disagree with?
Let me also mention at this point the precedent set by the near draconian measures taken by one Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War. For example, he suspended the writ of habeas corpus in some areas as early as Apr. 27, 1861, and throughout the nation on Sept. 24, 1862, and the administration made over 13,000 arbitrary arrests. He also permitted military tribunals to operate in defiance of the civil courts. But there was no impeachment because they were steps taken in a time of war presumably for national security purposes. The only difference really is that Bush is President in the Information Age so we get to see firsthand violations of liberties in the War on Terror as it unfolds on TV that "we the people" were spared during the Civil War.
If I didn't live in DC and if I hadn't seen people's very real and genuine fear of terrorist threat, I would probably agree with you (though to a less fanatical extent than you seem to promote). If I hadn't found myself in a forty five minute line at the grocery store to buy bottled water (which they were completely sold out of by the end of the day on the day the terror alerts came out a couple weeks ago), I would probably have never had the thought that whatever (within reason) Bush wants to do to get these terrorist b*stards is fine with me. So impeach him? No, I don't think so.
well, if you want to blame the government and seeing how there is an extreme lack of non-democrats or republicans in our government, i don't see how anyone can refute that. are you suggesting that the ralph nadars and ross perots and pat buchanons would somehow prevent the misrepresentation carried out by some republicans and democrats?
oh, and the pariot act is an abominable piece of trash that gives more powers to people who answer to no one. to allow unquestioned, abusable, and certainly corruptable power to be obtained is frightening - i believe that bush and his bosses were horrified by 9/11. but they're certainly using it to their advantage.
Signing into law the Patriot Act isn't an impeachable offense?
Sending U.S. citizens to jail without due process, lawyers or a trial isn't an impeachable offense?
Impeding investigations into the brother of Osama bin Laden just two months prior to Sept. 11 isn't an impeachable offense?
There's a term our Founding Fathers used to describe someone like Bush I, Bush II, FDR, Clinton especially, Carter, Ford, Nixon ...
...traitors.
That's what they are and each and every Congressman and Senator (those are separate; Congress is used to describe both chambers) who votes to approve an unconstitutional law is a traitor and should be tried for treason - that's not just coming from my end.
Those were the Founding Fathers' words.
You people have to realize that all of this nation's troubles stem from Republicans and Democrats - I would like to see someone even TRY to refute that statement.
You're right...I'm not acknowledging that "the people" can "twist" Bush's actions into an impeachable offense. Because they can't. It is very cut and dry, very black and white, no room for twisting or interpreting, and very very little room for public opinion to initiate or effect the outcomes of impeachment proceedings. So I will continue to not acknowledge what you say on this matter.
Bush pushed for legislation to limit emergency room use for welfare recipients.Thats inhumane! Sorry poor people, you can't get treated for your heartaches, or your life-threatening damages from car crashes. Thank goodness it didn't pass in congress.
quote: If the people don't like Bush and Bush hasn't committed any impeachable offenses (which he hasn't), it isn't up to Congress to remove him from office, it is up to us to vote him out. The politicians in Congress may want to safeguard their own jobs, but getting an unpopular president out of office isn't a part of that job.
The public can twist many of Bush's actions into something which could constitute as an impeachable offense. That's my point, and you're obviously not acknowledging that.
I am 23 years old and just finishing up school and I find it repulsive that these celebrities knock our leader. I am a Bush fan and I support the war in Iraq. Everything else aside do you not understand that this man Saddam tortures and kills his own people and he is a threat to the entire world. "Oh, lets talk lets try to reason with him lets work for peace" thats what all of these pansy celebs say. Hey we tried that and it isnt working. By the way Martin Sheen you are not the president you play one on TV.
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