Habits are hard to break, and when people start something, it's very difficult for them to stop. Like getting up the same time every morning, or just listening to a certain CD every day at a specific time, little things. This same thing applies to rapists, murderers, whomever you want it to be with extreme mental conditions. When you start, it's vey difficult to stop. And when you start something, you are doing something you like, that gives you a rush. A feeling of being alive. As humans, people do their best to avoid pain and things that hurt them; and if raping young children or anyone else gives them some sort of satisfaction, they're not going to stop. No matter the help one gets, or amount of jail time, it won't help. If you like it, then you'll do anything it takes to get it. Like a kid who eats a piece of really good candy, no matter what, he has to have that candy. Even if he has to steal it. (It's very good candy). Same thing for criminals in general. The only way to keep people like that off the street is to kill them. People want the highest form of vengence possible: death. And it should be given to them.

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Even a former rapist, with extensive treatment, could come to live life as a functional, productive, and healthy member of society.

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wrong. thats the way they are.

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believe we should extend the death penalty to crimes of a sexual nature that do not result in death. I believe rapists and pedophilles should be put to death. They never deserve to walk to streets again. In addition, this would reduce the popullation of prisons.

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not everyone who dates someone under age is evil

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Also we are sparing tac dollars by killing them.

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Well, there are some people who say that it takes more money to kill the inmates than to keep them on death row. I don't know about that, I'll have to look it up. But I think a worse punishment, at least for me, is to sit in jail for the rest of their lives, than to die.

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By putting someone to death we are cutting them off from the outside world indefinitley. Also we are sparing tac dollars by killing them.

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When we put a murderer to death, we put him out of misery. Why do they deserve that? They should be cut off from the outside world all together.

I don't think they should ever be without supervision ever again (i.e. locked up or constantly checked up on and in treatment), but I think that everyone has an equal right to life.

why does it matter they were asleep

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Maybe someone reading this can help. I know of a man in youth ministry who has molested a minimum of 44 young boys. He waits for them to fall asleep and then plays with them or worse. When they start to wake up he leaves the room. He admitted everything to the police, but they can't lock him up because all the boys were asleep. He can't stop. Does it all the time. Has got counseling several times. What can be done. The police know about him and they can't even keep him away from kids.

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Well, since you hold that view, you could help the problem by killing yourself, perhaps.

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once i murder/rape somebody i will

the quote still doesnt make any sense

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i hate that quote, it makes no sense

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It's a Ghandi quote. One of my favorites.

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Even a former rapist, with extensive treatment, could come to live life as a functional, productive, and healthy member of society.

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Not necessarily. It's sad, but some people have disorders so extreme, that they cannot possibly function in society. We, as a society, don't have the knowledge nor the means to rehabilitate these people.

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I think that we as a society should be making a much greater effort to get under murderer's and rapist's skin and see how their minds work. Even if we can't "cure" them, we can gain insight into how to prevent the problem from happening again.

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Psychology's interesting, isn't it. But humans are extraordinarily complex beings, and there's many different theories on why we are the way we are, and not one of them can be proved or disproved.

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i say kill them, world is over populated as is

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Well, since you hold that view, you could help the problem by killing yourself, perhaps.

i say kill them, world is over populated as is

My long-standing opinion has been that the purpose of prisons should be not to punish but to get the prisoners ready for life in society again. The fact is, people change. Even a former rapist, with extensive treatment, could come to live life as a functional, productive, and healthy member of society. I think that we as a society should be making a much greater effort to get under murderer's and rapist's skin and see how their minds work. Even if we can't "cure" them, we can gain insight into how to prevent the problem from happening again.

Why do murderers kill? Why do rapists rape? To just say they are "sick" isn't nearly good enough. I understand that they made a conscience decision to do what they did, and therefore are more than likely to do it again (without treatment, that is). But they're people too...and people that can be helped.

I'm sure my view won't be very popular when the ongoing debate seems to be Lock Em Up For Life Vs. Kill Em, but I've put in my two cents.

no it isnt, if life in prison was worse why are there so few suicides

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i hate that quote, it makes no sense

an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind - murder's just wrong. and I agree with Karen, life in prison's way worse than three minutes of agony.

not killed, i'd spill gasoline over them and light a match

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Rapists and pedophilles deserved to be killed.

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*is amazed* OMG! For once i agree with marine

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Well, you might see it that way, but I see it as bringing, not exactly justice to (I assume you mean "from") chaos, but just more dead people. And I don't exactly think more dead people is a good thing. And, anyway, I think natural life in prison is far worse punishment than death.

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I'm curious; what do you do as Honorable Chief Financial Officer?

murder for rape isnt a eye for and eye. putting that ****** in jail with big bubba is though

[This message was edited by YNLissa on June 30, 2004 at 08:02 AM.]

Oy? We *aren't* talking about murderers. Marine specifically said "we should extend the death penalty to crimes of a sexual nature that do not result in death".

How can lowering the government to the level of a murderer be a good thing, I wonder?