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Registered: October 05, 2003
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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quote: Creationism is not a theory.
Creationists and books on Creationism seem to spend most of their time disproving other theories, not detailing one of their own. I say this after several years of trying to find decent books on creationism when I was a Christian...Love, Jen.
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Registered: July 08, 2002
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A high school teacher is still irrelevant compared to a college professor. Especially when it's at a religious school. I went to a catholic high school; I know all about how they taint their "science" classes with attempts to prove Church dogma. Whereas professors actually have doctorates in the subject areas and maybe understand what they're doing...
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Registered: December 20, 2002
Posts: 122
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quote: If God created us we must obey him. If not, morality is something that must be worked out amongst ourselves.
Actually, I'm not even sure being created by something means we should obey it. I don't believe in God, but if he did exist the idea that he created us doesn't mean we can't still decide our own morality. I mean, how would you even know what God's will was? Ultimately we'd still have to think what God would want so it would still be us, in the end. Cause the Bible can be interpreted in so many ways, even supposing it were all direct from God, which would seem dubious to me even if I were religiously inclined… Believing God created everything in 6 days seems very odd to me, considering all the scientific evidence against it. Believing God controls evolution would be more logical. Just my opinion, I hope nothing I've said is offensive. Inky 
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Registered: May 23, 2003
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It can be both.
You see, theories can only conflict with other theories.
Creationism is not a theory.
Therefore, evolution and "God" are in no way mutually exclusive.
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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Those last remarks I said were irrelivant, I guess I got a little out of hand. Sorry bout that
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Registered: January 18, 2003
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I go to San Jose State, and the political leaning of the school is completely irrelevant to this, we are talking about science. But yes, I did go to Cal for 1 Semester, but again I fail to see what that has to do with science, maybe if we were talking about political-science or history I would understand.
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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sorry about the last remarks that was a little out of line
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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In my first reply I state that this is just one evolutionary theory if you read the whole reply thru.
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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I see you live in the cal. by any chance do you go to college in the bay area? Then maybe you've heard of a school called St. Ignatius. My biology teacher taught me that theory not my grammar teacher. Plus, I bet you go to some liberal *** school like Cal or Santa Cruz. Your opinion really doesn't matter to me. Also, you're in college, shouldn't you be drinking or hanging out with friends. This is a "youth" site yet you're in college.
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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Simply, when one is saying they believe in evolution they are saying they believe in "a change in allele frequencies over time." You, Veritas, like many people are applying the theory of evolution with the hypothesis of common descent, some will call this a theory some won’t. Now I believe in common descent but strictly on a biological definition all evolution means is a change in allele frequencies over time, due to certain natural mechanisms.
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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quote: First off, the info posted is not inaccurate since it is the same theory taught in my grammar and high school and I think I'd trust my teacher more then you.
Well that is your decision, and bad one I might add, to trust your grammar teacher, while I decide to trust my professor’s, in particular my Molecular Biology and my Anthropology professors. One of the main reasons so many don't accept evolution is because they are basing their information off the teachings of a grammar school teacher, whom does not a have any major credentials in the respective fields. quote: Plus, the only reason you're on the offensive is because you don't like Mr. Blue.
I don't even know the person; I simply did not like his representation of evolutionary theory. I have absolutely no idea where you pull the belief that just because I disagree with a statement he made that this some means I don't like him.
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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First off, the info posted is not inaccurate since it is the same theory taught in my grammar and high school and I think I'd trust my teacher more then you. Plus, the only reason you're on the offensive is because you don't like Mr. Blue.
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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quote: Actually, Evolution really is the belief that all life started as microrganisms which lived in sediments at the bottom of the ocean. Afterall, it's only a poll don't get on the offensive about the info given. Also, all science is based on theory and that's just one of the many Evolutionary theories.
Actually to believe just in evolution does not imply you believe in the RNA World Theory. I will get offensive about a poll when somebody puts inaccurate information about a field I have been studying extensively for the past 5 years.
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Registered: October 16, 2003
Posts: 17
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Actually, Evolution really is the belief that all life started as microrganisms which lived in sediments at the bottom of the ocean. Afterall, it's only a poll don't get on the offensive about the info given. Also, all science is based on theory and that's just one of the many Evolutionary theories.
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Registered: January 18, 2003
Posts: 1110
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quote: Evolution- the belief that life began as bacteria which evolved over millions of years into both humans and animals.
Evolution doesn't believe life started with Bacteria, in this case you are talking about the RNA world hypothesis, it believes life started with RNA, the first form of replicating molecules. Also it wasn't just millions of years it was BILLIONS of years, approximately between 3.5 and 2.5 billion years.
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Registered: May 06, 2003
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Ok. Good point. I think I meant, though, is that we are here now, and need to figure more other things out. Like how to get everyone a home, make sure everyone is eating enough, and so on. It could also be that personally creationism vs evolution just isn't high up on my list.
-rito
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Registered: July 08, 2002
Posts: 566
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It matters how we got here because that determines a big part of morality. If God created us we must obey him. If not, morality is something that must be worked out amongst ourselves.
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Registered: May 06, 2003
Posts: 958
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Who cares how we got here? Geeze. Just one more thing humanity needs to worry about, huh?
Ah well, when people demand an answer from me, evolution seems more plausible in my mind. But whatever, to each his own.
-rito
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