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Picture of redrepublican
Registered: June 04, 2004
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it is time someone says somthing about this:

As you all probably know France will not assist in the Iraq mission even though they should under teh terms of NATO.
France has been against the US from the beginning. They would not even let us use their air space to bomb the terrorist camps in Libya. When Libya itself was threatening European countries including themselves.
They will not even help us with the assistance of the new governmetn of Iraq. Even after we celebrated teh 60th anniversary of the day when thousands of American lives were used to liberate those European countries including the French.
Now that the war is over they will not even help us with an assistance of the new governemtn. They are opposed to everything America does.
NATO is essentially the American protection of Western Europe. WE HAVE GOTTEN NOTHING OUT OF OUT RELATIONSHIP WITH FRANCE OR NATO.
do you know of any time when France has acted with us militarily or with foreign policies?
there never was one.
You know full well that if it was France was having the problems with Iraq, we would have been the first to support them.
What have the countries in NATO done for us?
Plus the only reason the Soviet Union didnt go Atlantic was because of the creation of NATO.
When will the French ever help us if tehy will not even help us with teh assistance of teh governemtn of Iraq?
why do we pay billions of American dollars on NATO if no one helps us?
this will probably be one of teh only times i rip on Bush. he needs to show some backbone and disband NATO. he has done a terrible job.
We are essentially France's military. their military is in shambles. we have soldiers over there. and we have also boosted their economy by the American soldiers buying goods in their country.
we are not in war mode any more. they were against that. we are in teh peace mode and they still wont help us.
the ironic thing about this is NATO was made in between friends with western Europe against Eastern Europe. but nowit is western Europe that is against us (excluding Britain) and most of eastern Europe is siding with us.

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but they were so for peace before so when we askled them to do a peace mission, they rejected it. why? they had a contractual treaty with NATO.


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Registered: July 18, 2004
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I really don't think France, or any other nation for that matter is obligated to agree with and support the US and our policies. Even considering the fact we assisted them in WWII, that doesn't mran they should be expected to support everything we decide to do since. They are a soveriegn nation and not beholden to us.
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Registered: December 11, 2003
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you're right, thats part of having a commonwealth. licking someone else's *** when you dont want it. im sorry, better said, doing the riskier work because we're the third wheel
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we didnt make you do jack. we are asking you do simple foot soldier work, not bomb the hell out of a country.

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the canadians didn want to help you, and so did the russians, the french, the germans, everyone. except us the puerto ricans (well you made us go) and the British
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Registered: July 15, 2004
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i dont know about France but Canada just DOESNT have the troops or equipment to support very many peacekeeping missions or wars, maybe if we had more equipment it would be better.
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canada did help us at one time. they had a contractual treaty with NATO. im not mad at them for not going to war. we asked them to take part in a peace mission, which they seemed like such an advocate for efore, now wont even help. and before you bash ,me look at teh entire topic instead of just my original post.

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ok so your pissed that the french dont believe in your cause...well boo hoo no one can make a nation blow the sh!t out of another!! And arent you pissed that Candaians dont support your cause or not??
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ho is allawi not a good choice? he has been an advocate for peace for most of saddam's reign!
they just wont help because it would be helping the Us and the Frnech wont do that.

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No, I did not mean that that is why we are there, but I was just making a general point about why the french and germans dont want us there. If they dont want us there because they were making money, then they should say that. No TRUE ally would hope for anothers failure. They do.

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Registered: March 25, 2003
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Hi again and thank you for the e-mail, same. Anyways, I don't know why they refused to help however I believe there are two possibilities. One being b/c they don't believe that Allawi was a good choice for Iraq or the Iraqis, being that he may be there in the US's best interest and not the Iraqis. Or that they never agreed w/ the war in the first place and they are refusing to clean up the US's "mess" which is sad b/c that would be punishing the Iraqis. And actually there's another possibility, that maybe they know he is in Iraqs interest or maybe not in the Iraqis interest but either way they won't assist him b/c they don't believe he is in their own interest as in Germany or France, which is disgusting if that is the case.
Bye Smile
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Registered: March 25, 2003
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About doing it to get rich b/c it is your right. It is not your right to go to war to get rich. It is not your right to go to war when innocents will die. No one has that right, and I don't think Bush will agree w/ you on saying that. He would instead probably say, we went to war b/c Sadaam was a threat to not only the US but democracy and the US specifically, and b/c he was killing his own people, and b/c even after the Gulf War, he still has not cleaned up his act. Now just b/c I said that does not mean I agree w/ it or believe the war was justified but I do believe that Mr. Bush had a stronger reason than to get rich, and I'm confussed as to why you would say that when you support him, unless you think war is justified to get money, and if that's the case then I am disgusted but more over saddened, but I don't believe that's what you meant. Bye SmileSMILE BRIGHTLY Smile
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the difference is that the US openly does things that are in our self intrest, and doesn't try to hide it, the French and germans, instead of saying that it is in their self-intrest to keep iraq as it was, they secretly try to do thigs to undermine the coalitional authority. That is the problem with the world, it is now looked down upon to say, "I am doing this because i want to get rich, it is my life and my right." Why is that such a problem?

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Registered: June 04, 2004
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oh this sickens me. the Prime Minister Allawi of Iraq formally requested NATO for support in Iraq and even then France and Germany opposed it. It makes me quake with anger. So much for advocates of peace.

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Registered: October 22, 2002
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Here's my 2 pennies...for the most part, the ACLU is one of the most horrible organizations in America, ranking right up there with Al Qaeda cells, which seems hell-bent on destroying America anyway it can. That's what happens when you put lawsuit-happy iconoclasts in power. The NAACP is getting pretty close, too. It was once a good organization but has become a simple puppet, a tool of manipulation for the far left. I'm not familiar with the UFW and can't comment on that organization.

Regardless, being a member of the first two organizations says nothing about one's commitment to fighting racism anyway. And the NAACP, in a somewhat indirect sense, promotes it.

The point is, one's commitment to the abolition of racism is not quantified by how many far-left groups of which one is a member; one's commitment is determined by the actual work they do, and the respect they show to others of other races.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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but do you support them in their fight against racism?
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i am not a part of those organizations.

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anti racism republican you never answered my question. do you support the ACLU? how about the NAACP? Or UFW?
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they are racist?! as in the rest of the world? for Christs sake! just because you dislike someone's political stances does not make you a ***in racist! get the God damn meaning of teh word straight.

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