Pie is correct, there were many gun/self defense posts before you came to youthnoise dauben.

"Out of all the liberal views on this website, gun control is the least debated." Thats because all the afore mentioned gun grabbers got spanked. You could dig back some and find the "Guns in our society" post-which was the only big post on the subject.

Of course guns should be banned and confiscated, NOW ! Every citizen should be required to turn in their firearm or be in violation of the law. Of course criminals wont commit a crime by keeping their guns, they're not LAWBREAKERS.