Question:
What is/was the worst tyrant of all time?

Choices:
Joseph Stalin
Adolf Hitlar
Mao Tse-tung
other ( historical)
other ( Modern)

 

The CIA couldn't do anything to prevent 9-11 because it was prevented to do anything by the Bush administration.

Not like I'm suggesting anything, just throwing that out for you.

The CIA overthrew several Central American democratic governments (Nicaragua) and replaced them with quasi-fascist militarist governments!
That's great!

People, people, people...Cuba isn't all that totalitarian. Sure, Fidel Castro isn't elected, and while not that many people are rich, not all that many people are poorer than all that many other people, and they have quality health care for a Carribbean country. In concept, it could be better, but who knows that would happen if Castro had or was overthrown.

A fairly stable totalitarian, there.

Pinochet's predesescor? Elected. What happened?
The US bombed the presidential palace.

Nice. Move. We sure do love democracy, don't we?

ahh, I was wondering what that meant...

i said jp as in just playin

Bin Laden never had any sort of leadership of any government. Besides, he has done comparatively little when stacked up against these other guys...

how com bin laden aint on there?? jp evryone makes mistakes

My uncle's family was forced to flee Chile because of the repressions of Augusto Pinochet. YOU try and tell him it could have been worse...

Well, I guess it could have been. They could have caught them.

Anywho, that said, I think that the worst totalitarian dictator was Pol Pot. I mean, killing 1 out of 6 of your country's entire population? Proportionally, no other dictator comes close to Pol Pot's death toll.

Pinochet was a thug, but Allende was a corrupt marxist who repeatedly abused his power and left millions in his country starving. Allende was overthrown easily not because of the CIA but because the majority of people were fed up with Allende and his radical policies. Chile was teetering on the brink of economic collapse, and when the military took over the country as a result they faced little opposition. I am not denying that there were horrific human rights abuses, rape and torture, but Chile could have been far worse. At least there was prosperity and eventual return to a republic in Chile, Allende's regime could have led to another Cuba-like totalitarian state.

One more thing: The CIA is not the monstrous agency and meddler in world affairs that conspiracy theorists and the far left make it out to be. It was and still is highly manipulative and intrusive agency, but it welded little power outside of intelligence. Also, the CIA has over the years become a bureaucracy and as 9-11 showed it is incapable of determining conspiracies or possible terrorist acts, let alone encouraging or engaging in them.

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I just said you took the side of the justices while saying that "those greedy lawyers" are inherently untrustworthy.

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Let me sum myself up then for the sake of argument, I honestly don't trust anyone. Unless it was spoke from my mouth or a thought I had, then whatever I hear does not have to be in my best interest. I try to listen and piece things together as best I can, in the end whatever makes the most sense to me is what I agree with. That's all, it has come of debate about me trying to sway a political belief and blah blah blah...this is not my goal. I am an Indy, and what I see is alot of skewing of data and blatant lies from one side. Who is right and who is wrong is never a goal of mine, no one is ever right...I just tend to follow who is most right at that moment.

I never said I bought into the idea. I just said you took the side of the justices while saying that "those greedy lawyers" are inherently untrustworthy.

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The fact that you automatically discounted the possibility that the 2000 election was stolen by the conservative justices kind of implies that you do trust them.

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not this again....is anyone ever going to get over it....exactly how many more recounts do we need?? I don't need the supreme court to tell me who won.....we all saw the recounts.

The fact that you automatically discounted the possibility that the 2000 election was stolen by the conservative justices kind of implies that you do trust them. It's not very blatant, but it's there.

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Uhm, the Supreme Court Justices were all lawyers before they were judges...

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and? Did I somehow elude to saying I trust them??
I don't trust politicians either....I just have to deal.

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the lawyers who write these books weren't appointed to anything by Nixon, Reagan, or Bush, which gives them much more credibility.

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no they were appointed by the never ending greed for money which makes it so much better.

Clinton was a political hack who was lucky enough to be in power in relatively prosperous and calm times. Under his presidency, he granted a tremendous number of pardons, was accused of racketeering and overall was immensely corrupt. He also gained undeserved praise over the economy, which not only was rebounding during Bush I's hapless presidency but was also inflated by companies such as Enron (which incidentally had connection in both Clinton and George Ws presidencies). Clinton also ignored the threat posed by terrorism numerous times, with only a few humanitarian exceptions, and cut money from intelligence and the military. Clinton was essentially the man to blame for 9-11 and our stock market, because he managed to impair our national security through his reckless loose immigration and anti-military policies and managed to allow corporate criminals to get even more influence in politics and the stock market (Ex: Marc Rich).

No, I simply never said that Billy. Get over it. Well, yes, but the lawyers who write these books weren't appointed to anything by Nixon, Reagan, or Bush, which gives them much more credibility.

Uhm, the Supreme Court Justices were all lawyers before they were judges...

so then you are saying the majority of the country doesn't support Bush.....you need to make up your mind...first they do....then they don't.

I think your own conspiracies are catching up with you...

side note - I trust a lawyer about as much as...well...ummm you....yeah I'm going to read books by people who's only goal is to make money at any cost. You have some odd beliefs for a commie.

Conspiracy everywhere? What are you talking about? There are dozens of well reasearched books written by well respected lawyers that lay out how George W Bush stole the 2000 election.

It's not some half-assed alien conspiracy, it's a documented fact. As arrogant republicans back in 2000 said about the recount, "Get over it."

How about you add a valid point next time, crackahboy?

Jah Love

conspiracy everywhere!!! what will we all do!!!!



bahahahhahahahahaha

I really wish I could argue any of conspiracysmurf's arguments...but thay are so old...someone please...give a brother a hand...I have beaten this dead horse since 9/11...it's dead already.

Guess what Clinton didn't go that George W Bush did?

STEAL THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONA AND RAPE AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

Just a side note.