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Registered: December 04, 2002
Posts: 157
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What about the Catholic Church? Or even religion as a whole? Yes, I think religion is the most tyrannical force known to man.
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Registered: December 10, 2002
Posts: 189
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the worst tyrant of all time- Satan 
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Registered: January 30, 2002
Posts: 680
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What about little richard? Man that guy scares the pee right out of me. Who took the piccha of little richard? 
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Registered: August 14, 2001
Posts: 742
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Just because a leader received the approval of his people and "answers to parliament" does not mean that he is not a tyrannical leader. For example, in 1933, Hitler and the Nazi party received the majority vote in the elections (43.9%). And this was after Hitler began to impose very un-democratic laws, such as restrictions on freedom of speech. As for Sharon, he has a past that is pretty similar to Yasser Arafat's. He was once a terrorist against the British, who were occupying what is now Israel. If you doubt me, look it up, as well as recorded atrocities the Israeli army has committed against the Palestinians. Then, if you have real viable information to the contrary, please post it here. And, just because a person is Jewish does not mean that they are somehow incapable of being evil like everyone else. And just because Locutus is bold enough to point that out doesn't make him an "anti-semetic."
...It's funny how Sista said such airbrained skinhead B.S., most likely in a lame attempt to get everyone all riled up, when she has a screenname that reflects African-American culture. I find that amusing for some reason...
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Registered: February 13, 2003
Posts: 27
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hitler had it all figured out, and I am offended that you spelt the man's name wrong
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Stalin was by far the most brutal dictator we have seen. However, we must give him credit for finally pulling Russia into the industrial revolution (even though they seem to be forever stuck in this phase.).
As for whoevere put Ariel Sharon, smooth move moron. He was elected by the people and answers to Parliament. But I guess anti-semetics like to ignore that fact, locutus.
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Registered: July 08, 2002
Posts: 566
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Actually, some estimates of the number of deaths for which he was responsible go as high as 80 million. Hitler also never put any other major tyrants in power (Franco was pretty bad, but not one of the top five murderers of the century), but without Stalin there would be no Mao, no Kim, no Hoxha (Albanian dictator)... And without aggression by both the Soviet Union and the US, there would be no Osama bin Laden.
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Registered: August 14, 2001
Posts: 742
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quote: I mean Mao was a tyrant but hey he mainly only affected China and same with Stalin. Both these leaders didnt have an impact on Africa or on other parts of Asia, or on the middle east. The only ppl they oppressed where their own people as all dictators do.
I beg to differ. Stalin did oppress even those who were outside the Soviet Union. For example, during the Spanish Civil War between the fascists and the anti-fascists, which were made up of liberalists (pro-capitalism, pro-democracy), Marxists, and anarchists. The democratic nations refused to help the anti-fascists (mostly because they didn't want to get involved in another war, and partly because most of the anti-fascists were not liberalists). Only Stalin sent supplies and troops to aid them, but on condition that a Stalinist government be set up. Stalinst propaganda began to circulate that the anarchists and especially the non-Stalinist Marxists were secretly aiding Franco's fascists. Any member of either of these groups was arrested for conspiracy, and the only legal party was the Communist Party. But this did not last long, for the fascists, with help from Germany and Italy, took control of all of Spain. You're also forgeting the circumstances of post-World War II Europe. Soviet troops committed horrible atrocities against the people of Germany during its occupation: one father had to watch 32 Soviet troops rape his daughter, and count out loud each time she was raped. Europe was divided along what would later be called the Iron Curtain, with Soviet puppet governments installed in many eastern European countries (East Germany, Poland, Czechoslovakia, etc.). When any of these countries tried to reform their governments by, say, holding democratic elections, the Soviet Union would put a stop to it, sometimes even by sending in troops (this continued even long after Stalin died in 1953). Mao didn't necessarily directly effect nations outside of China, but he influenced other totalitarian governments, such as those of North Korea, Vietnam, and especially Cambodia (where, under the dictator Pol Pot, at least 2 million people were killed in the Cambodian genocides of the mid-1970's). Stalin is also said to be Saddam Hussein's idol, and he is said to have based his policies and actions on those of Stalin (he also kinda looks like him, don't you think? Creepy...). All in all, I think its incorrect to say that Stalin and Mao did not oppress people outside their respective countries. They didn't exactly go out and start conquering nearby nations on a whim like Hitler did, but they did kill and oppress many people outside of the USSR and China, in more subtle ways.
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Registered: December 10, 2002
Posts: 189
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what about yes-sir air-of-fat? ( yasser arafat)
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Registered: April 03, 2002
Posts: 1141
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Don't forget Ariel Sharon.
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Registered: December 04, 2002
Posts: 157
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Yeah, FDR sure was being a tyrant when the US bailed your *** out of WWII. Or would you rather be speaking German?
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Registered: December 10, 2002
Posts: 189
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pinochet- 3,197
and yes, many terribly tortured. Hitlar and stalin also tortured people, as did most of these tyrants.
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Registered: December 10, 2002
Posts: 189
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Mao- 39.9 to 45.75 million Stalin- 15 to 50 million ( depends on who you ask) Hitlar- 35 million Pol Pot- 1.6 million Bush- 0.0 million
of course, you have to consider methods of torture etc. Genocide, biases, medical experimentation and who know what else.
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Registered: December 10, 2002
Posts: 189
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they only let me put in 5 answers, so I had to pick and choose, thats why I have "other(historical)" and "other(modern)" as two of the catagories.
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Registered: December 30, 2002
Posts: 186
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You fail to mention, Nero, Pol Pot, numerous English and French kings, and a large assortment of militia men.  *Star* 
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Registered: January 12, 2003
Posts: 47
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What about Pinochet in Chile? Was he okay just because the CIA put him into power, just because the USA supported him? He is one of the most diabolical dictators to have lived...why isnt he listed?
He kidnapped, tortured and killed thousands upon thousands of his fellow countrymen because they disagreed with his religious, political and economic plans.
Now this man really knew how to torture a person. He would electricute people's eyelids and genitals. He would break tubes of glass in what you can imagine as the most painful place for a man. They would tie women to doctor tables, naked, for days, and his military men would rape whenever they felt like it. He held over a million Chilean citizens in the national soccer stadium, using the different passageways as interigation/torture rooms, while forcing the rest of the prisoners to sleep on the field.
The point I'm trying to make is, how could you even ask such a ludacrious question??? Man in enately evil, each of these "tyrants" are absolutely horrible--one certainly can't be worse than the other when they all very horrible!
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Registered: February 06, 2003
Posts: 5
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Its interesting how you list the tyrants the the United states specifically liked to demonise. Mainly old communist leaders (with the exception of Hitler). I mean Mao and Stalin bad but so was the Shah of Iran, Pinnochia, most of the isreali leader, many leaders of the united states. Actually im sorry i dont want to appear to be on the offensive. Im sure you meant nothing by it. Im just saying there is a tendency in the West to view any dictator or tyrant that opposes them or who they dislike to be the greatest tyrant or the worst of them all when really they are just another name on the long list of tyrants who pester the human race. I mean Mao was a tyrant but hey he mainly only affected China and same with Stalin. Both these leaders didnt have an impact on Africa or on other parts of Asia, or on the middle east. The only ppl they oppressed where their own people as all dictators do. The only reason why they have been marked out by the western world is because the west saw them as threatening their interests. Hitler is probably the only legitimate person on the list as he took his oppressive campaign on the road. But Mao and Stalin aint that special.
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Registered: February 06, 2003
Posts: 5
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I think he is definitely one of the biggest tyrants in the world. But hmm you cant just blame one man i guess. Actually then the whole of the United States government since the 1900's. All have been equally tyrannical and evil. Bye now.
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Registered: April 27, 2002
Posts: 855
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You list three 20th century dictators? How about some of the popes, Nero, Pol Pot, a few Englsh Kings and assorted military leaders?
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