Some people don't believe in god. Also, Is this country really "indivisable, with liberty and justice for all"? Please reply!

What I'm trying to say is should it be a part of everyday school, or should it just be allowed, but you do not have to say it.

If you chose not to say it don't say its not like your being forced to my teachers don't ever say anything to me but usually I'm just talkin to my friends not protesting anything!lol

Look, if you want to say it, say it, and if you don't, don't.

It was put there during the red scare after the administration was pressured by the Knights of Columbus... "godless communists" aren't much of a worry any more, so the original intent of the addition has been rendered obsolete.

Only idiots don't realize that 'Under God' was purposefully put into the pledge so it should stay there and if you don't believe in God just don't say that.But some people do and they should have the right to say it if they wish to.If they get rid of it against the will of those who wish it to stay that makes us liable to remove "justice" which there is rarely justice in little every day things so why is it there to begin with?

the pledge of allegiance is just incorrect in my opinion.....anyone who actually thinks that we have liberty and justice for all is just livin under a rug. why should it even matter if we say a pledge???? theres more to patriotism. and, personally,...i dont really c why everyones so into what iluvjp has to say on this one. she's kinda saying that anybody who doesnt agree w/ everytthing the pledge says isnt an american and shouldnt be here...well, thats hypocritical, bcuz pledging your loyalties to our country means pledging to its freedoms....and we've got freedom of speech!!! wake up, hon!!!luv, erica

At least they aren't ripping the English curriculum apart, heh.

i think that saying the pledge of alligiance, should b optional. it shouldnt be something u have 2 do.

ByE bYe

yeah i think we should say it...or if you have such a big thing about saying it then you at least shouldn't go and make a big scene about it. The pledge of Allegiance is just a symbol of the U.S. its not like by saying "one nation under god" you are going against your beliefs, don't you say "god that hurt!" when you stub your toe?
and also you should be grateful to live in the United States there are bunches of people who would give anything to live here and we're making a big deal of saying a few words?? Get over it!
-Molly

Forcing people to say the pledge of allegiance is like giving the death penalty to anyone who attempts suicide.

The "under God" line was added during the Communist scare/McCarthy era since the "godless commies won't say it." It was not in the origional pledge and should be removed because it detracts from the intent of the pledge.

The point of the pledge is that you are pledgeing allegiance to what the Flag stands for (since the flag is a SYMBOL). Of that would NOT include religion.

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What do you have against symbols? The American flag represents those who died so you can have the freedoms that you do today. Your Christian cross is a symbol of Jesus dying on the cross for you. It's just a piece of material in the shape of a T, so why bother acknowledging it? Double standards, I see.

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Allah/God/Jesus/Moses/Buddah/Mohammad/etc. help her if she ever has to read "The Great Gatsby".

no one can stop you.

i wont because it is so unnerving to me to make comitments like that to this country. i love it sure, and it's not as if i'd betray it but if it ever let me down... i don't agree with every pollicy and every leader and i think that the pledge is a promiss that should be taken siriously.

there are also alot of lies in those words. are we really under god? some of you have problems with other religions, you wouldn't call them "under god" and yet this country is a menagerie of faiths. and much of what this country does in ignorance and violence isn't holy.

indivisible... technically, well go ask dubya's home state. more figuratively: we are divided, thats why we argue so and our leaders fight about regulations and actions

with liberty and justice for all? yes all of you white, rich, christian, men who never wander too far from the path with your human mind

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... i'm gonna just pledge allegiance to a freakin piece of cloth. I know it's supposed to be symbolic and whatnot... but that's kind of ridiculous

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What do you have against symbols? The American flag represents those who died so you can have the freedoms that you do today. Your Christian cross is a symbol of Jesus dying on the cross for you. It's just a piece of material in the shape of a T, so why bother acknowledging it? Double standards, I see.

Should? No. We have no imperative to pledge allegiance to anything. If one wants to, let them. If not, that's cool too.

I think we should pledge to show pride for our country. Even if there is no other reason you can think of, then just be proud for living in the U.S. I'm very glad I was born here and that I live here because you see all the other problems that other countries have. (Not that we don't have problems) Just freakin say the pledge cause it doesn't last very long and why does it matter whether or not we say it? Just say it!

GO i luvjp! GO U GO U! HAH i agree. I dont know why anyone would be annoyed by just saying a 10 second thing to honor ur country anyway! OH NO I SAID IT I LOST AN EYEBALL! HELP! NOT! Just say it and u'll feel good later.
~NIK~

not a problem

Xsavedbygrace, you just comunicated m point perfectly. Thank you.

i think the pledge of allegiance is absolutely stupid... seriously "i pledge allegiance to the flag"? Hahaha right... i'm gonna just pledge allegiance to a freakin piece of cloth. I know it's supposed to be symbolic and whatnot... but that's kind of ridiculous. But other than that whole shindig... why would i pledge allegiance to a country that i don't agree with most of what's going on in it?

Pledging allegiance is saying you agree with the basic ideals of this country, not that you believe that those ideals are necessarily carried out. I personally don't place that much importance on whether or not god exists (I do believe in reincarnation though), though I still recite the under god segment of the pledge because that was essentially the religious foundation of this country even with separation of church and state. By refusing to salute the flag, you easily reject the bill of rights and its statement that all men are created equal with certain inalienable rights by their creator (or imagined one).

Personally, I would be beyond angry if some typical atheist or leftist tried to get rid of the pledge as usual. The pledge has symbolic value in that it represents what this country should be like, and to get rid of that is essentially destroying the so called American dream. In my opinion, I think its a negative sign that so many in this country refuse to salute the flag, as it signals that people are rejecting this country's values and basic institutional authority. Do people have the right to free speech? In most cases, but when you chose to reject that which represents why you have that freedom to begin with, all bets are off.