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You were defensive sounding about some guy in alabama way before I ever replied to your stupid ideas about mormons.

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Umm yeah but I really don't understand why you are so upset about that. It has nothing to do with you, so I don't get why you even brought it up. Doesn't really accomplish anything or further your argument.
I don't think Mormons follow what Jesus taught, so no, I do not consider them Christian. If you go by the dictionary's definition they are, but if you go by the dictionary's definition, the KKK are also Christian. Do you really consider the KKK to be Christian?

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If your noisename has anything to do with letters, then I don't want to hear it.

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What?
Yeah I was being general, but the difference between my generalities and the really offensive kind is that mine are just sentences that aren't specific enough and the others are stereotyping, such as saying all black people commit crimes, all atheists hate Christians and various other harmful generalities. I admit I was being too general, but as far as being general goes I wasn't committing a serious crime.

Fine, I'm not a jew or a christian. All I meant to say I knew anything about was "MORMONS are christians". Jews need not be threatened by or concerned with anything I say, only that letter chick.

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Mormons are just as christian as any Jew, Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, Methodist, or Protestant(and whatever others). The only real difference(which is actually a similarity), is that they all think that they are the most superior....

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i like that. except Jews aren't Christian if anything, christians are Jews. the whole point of being a Jew as opposed to being Christian is that you don't believe that christ was the messiah. u c? CHRISTian?

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Most of those statements were general, not aimed at you, stupidity.

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If your noisename has anything to do with letters, then I don't want to hear it. I could have sworn that someone on here had a problem with generalities.... Oh well, since I'm hallucinating we better just skip to the point where I'm wrong. If there were to be only one exception, the kind of people who will say anything to pretend that they are always right no matter what should be the ones subjected to getting the death penalty.

You were defensive sounding about some guy in alabama way before I ever replied to your stupid ideas about mormons. Why are you still thinking its ok to think that they arent christian, have you an understanding of what it means to be a chritian yet? Should we all ban together to buy you a dictionary for christmas?

You didn't really clarify anything. I don't see how I'm arguing with myself. My initial comments on Mormonism weren't directed at you, and then you posted something that was pretty confrontational, aimed at me and my post. So I started acting defensive.

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until someone contradicts you(which still hasn't happened yet)

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Mormons ARE just as christian as any of the other previously mentioned religions. Just because the people you talk to don't know their belly buttons from their Ässholes, it still doesn't change the fact that mormons are christian.

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Pretty contradicting to what I said.

___I meant for you to look up the word "christian".


___I've come to the cliff's edge of unnecessary clarifications. This is as clear as I can possibly hope to express what I was saying:

You ARE arguing with yourself, I was explaining how you don't have to add in the "acting defensive part" until someone contradicts you(which still hasn't happened yet)

A large number of words do mean different things depending on who you ask. Also, if you actually do look in the dictionary, the definition of 'Mormon Church' says nothing about whether or not it is Christian. I know someone who thinks Episcopalians aren't Christian because of the recent gay bishop. I know people who think anyone who follows Christ's teachings, whether they know it or not, are Christian. What/who is or isn't Christian does depend on who you ask. Even the dictionary doesn't support your argument.
You seem to be harping on my argument's form and my posts instead of my actual argument, but I think your form needs improvement.
'Just because you are uninformed of certain things(that you talk about anyways)'....what are you talking about? I have no idea what this is referring to, I don't know what you mean when you say 'things', how about we clarify?
'doesn't mean you can create your own little world to dictate what is or isn't factual in the real world.' Sorry if my first post seemed like I was presenting my opinion as complete fact, but it was, well, my opinion. I'm not saying that it is a fact Mormons aren't Christian. what I am presenting as fact is that 'Christian' depends on who you're talking to.
'And if you want to ramble about god know's what, try not to get all defensive over something you heard. You can start acting up if someone like me disagrees with your findings. Not before.' WHAATT AREE YOUU TAALKKINNGG ABBOUUUTTT? I seriously do not know what to say because I have no idea what you're talking about. Isn't it a little hypocritical to yell at me for rambling in my posts when you apparently pull things out of the air in your posts?

Ok your whole argument is based on the idea you hatched that words can mean whatever you want them to mean. Go buy a dictionary. Just because you are uninformed of certain things(that you talk about anyways) and make your own judgements, doesn't mean you can create your own little world to dictate what is or isn't factual in the real world.

And if you want to ramble about god know's what, try not to get all defensive over something you heard. You can start acting up if someone like me disagrees with your findings. Not before. It only makes too much sense that way.

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Though if you think about it, what denominations are and aren't Christian is all up to who you ask. In the end 'Christianity' is just a word.

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Yeah notice that comment. Helps if you read the entire post.

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Just because the people you talk to don't know their belly buttons from their Ässholes, it still doesn't change the fact that mormons are christian.

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Ummm yeah. I assume these belly button people are the people who I said don't accept Mormonism as Christianity. That is such a dumb, hypocritical statement. Who is or isn't Christian depends on who you ask...don't present 'Mormons are Christians' as a fact and then turn around and get mad at people for contradicting you. Different people have different definitions, in their mind, of 'Christian'. You can't prove a subjective argument. It's like arguing with a French person over whether a plastic writing utensil is a pen or une stylo. Will you ever REALLY be right?
Nooootttiiiiceee I said 'I think Mormons don't call themselves Christians' and then said 'but I might be wrong'. It's a lot better to say that than leaving out the 'I might be wrong', thus implying fact.
Hey, I have fun speaking on YouthNoise, and yes, occasionally rambling. I didn't know there was something wrong with it. I'm not 'amusing myself with the miracle of speaking'. I'm just talking about things. Thus, the word messageboard. Talking. Messages. Speaking. Messageboard. If you're going to yell at people because their posts don't have a good point, in your eyes, how about you start with the people who just post 'yeah mike's right' or other short, superfluous posts instead of my posts where if you reeeaadddd theeee eeennntttiiirreee pooosssttt it has primarily sentences with points. Why did you make this an issue of my 'amusing myself with the miracle of speaking'?

Why do some people act like taking references to God off the currency would be unthinkable? Some people tend to argue that, for example, we should keep God in the pledge of alleigience (sic) because if we took Him out, we'd have to take Him off the currency. These people then stop the discussion right there, as if they've just played a trump card, and I have no choice but to look back and think how silly I was to believe what I do in the first place.

I'm all for Taking out "In God we trust" from the money. Many of the world's currencies, such as the Euro, do not have God on them. We could replace the phrase with something we could all agree with, like "We hold these truths (of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness) to be self-evdent," or "Land of Freedom." Or how about "Against Communism We Stand"? After all, our nation is about as anti-communist as it is religious, and even more so. (Our government is essentially agnostic but entirely non-communist, for example. And it is unconstitutional to establish religion, but entirely constitutional to stamp out communism.)

Allow me to assure you that I am not being satirical. I do not support communism, it is a disgraceful system. I simply feel it would be a better, though not the absolute best, national motto.

___First you sounded as though you thought there was some non-existent faction out to get you for typing stuff. Now you are addressing issues that you "might be wrong" about. Mormons ARE just as christian as any of the other previously mentioned religions. Just because the people you talk to don't know their belly buttons from their Ässholes, it still doesn't change the fact that mormons are christian.

___Damn I hate repeating myself, I don't just say things to amuse myself with the miracle of speaking. Who do you think I am... you?

I don't think Mormons call themselves Christians, but I might be wrong. I'm pretty sure it's a completely different religion. Sure there are overlapping things, but there are overlapping things with Judaism and Islam, doesn't mean one is the other. Well, I don't know. It's not really accepted as Christianity by the general public though. Like Scientology and Jehovah's Witnesses...kinda Christian...but not really. Though if you think about it, what denominations are and aren't Christian is all up to who you ask. In the end 'Christianity' is just a word.



Stupidity, I was just referring to various media, press, and politicians, not really anything specific...just the people who like to say bad things about Christians and generalize. It wasn't so much of an argument as a rant about the political correct issue and how our country likes to martyr minorities and demonize majorities.

___Mormons are just as christian as any Jew, Catholic, Baptist, Muslim, Methodist, or Protestant(and whatever others). The only real difference(which is actually a similarity), is that they all think that they are the most superior....

*because that's obviously the most important thing to remember*


___letter: I apologize if you were confusing and random in your rantings, but I never said that I thought you were speaking to me in perticular. So are you complaining about something someone from alabama did because it means something, or does somebody here think he was doing something smart? Who is making the point you are trying to prove isn't true?

Ok, stupidity, if a large group of Christians launch an attack on a Muslim country. I never said anyone openly condones the attack...I was saying that if Christians did the same thing, there would be a lot more attacks (not necessarily physical) on the religion itself. Not that there weren't attacks on Islam, but most of the media and politicians made a significant effort to make it very clear to the public that it was not a true representation of Islam. Do you honestly think Christianity would get the same treatment? It just really annoys me when people make silly incidents into something huge and make Christianity the bad guy. Some guy from Alabama put up a stone Ten Commandments, and suddenly all Christians are forcing their religion on everyone. It's ridiculous. Sorry our religion is the majority, we aren't forcing you to convert, so get off our backs.

Most of those statements were general, not aimed at you, stupidity.

IF. ANYONE. SAYS. THAT OUR COUTRY IS BASED ON THE TEN COMMANDMANTS...

Well, I won't actually do anything, but i'll imagine bad things happening. And, uh, maybe that'll do something.

Well...Mormons are a bit weirder than your average Christian...but that doesn't mean they're not a sect..

I would simply feel obligated to tell the truth. Whether I'm swearing on the Bible or Harry Potter or Dr. Seuss would not matter. I've sworn to tell the truth, and therefore would tell it (ideally...though if I'd murdered someone or something I'd probably lie like hell...but that's not the point). And do they actually use the Bible to swear on anymore...? Dumb question, probably, but I was thinking that they stopped doing that. Love, Jen.

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they're hand on the bible would have meant and would now mean absolutely nothing.

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they're? they are hand on the bible? sry

but right now anyone who isn't Christian could swear on the bible but not tell the truth and not feel bad about it. i mean, i'm Jewish, and if i was swearing on the new testament, which i dont think is tru bc i dont think that jesus was our messiah, i wouldnt feel obligated to stay true to an oath on it. would you feel obligated to stay true to an oath that u made on a storybook?

Did someone just say that mormons aren't christian? Will this throbbing in my brain ever cease to end!?!?!? *MONUMENTAL PAIN*

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Whoops! I mean Evy