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Picture of PrincessL
Registered: August 11, 2001
Posts: 333
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I do not support guns at all. I know it is the person behind the gun killing people, but guns make it so much easier for people. A lot of children get hurt just because they are playing with a gun that is someone elses, and they just found it because someone left it sitting there. Does anyone support guns? Because I don't see the need for them in our society. What does everyone think about guns in general? Are laws making guns easier to get, anyway to solve the problems in this world? confused confused
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Registered: August 23, 2007
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Okay, I'd just like to say that you guys, for one, are being rediculous. You don't cuss at each other whilst debating on something that has ALREADY happened and CANNOT be stopped. Secondly, I'd like to say that it has been a great time RESEARCHING this subject, and that I learned a lot. Thirdly, There is evidence that Dylan Klebold, one of the Columbine killers, was actually pressured into doing what he did by the latter of the two, Eric Harris. I find it almost humiliating that people in this country would do such a thing because of PEER PRESSURE, but nonetheless, it may have been so. Anyway, I recently discovered that my video(the last remaining copy of it) had been deleted off of myspace, so I may be obliged to make yet ANOTHER one, but come drop in and say you're from youthnoise if you do. www.myspace.com/rox_ur_sox13
Picture of NoiseInTheShadows
Registered: July 24, 2006
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I support total gun control

people need to be able to hit their targets

haha. Yes!!


"The deepest circle of Hell is reserved for betrayers and mutineers."--Captain Jack Sparrow
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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dear speaktruf01,

we the members of this website are highly intrested in your views, mainly so that we can either support them or shred them. However it would be wonderful if you would type in english so that we could understand what those views are.

Thanks,
the site


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 12, 2007
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Wow. Some of our conversation is gone. I'm sorry, Miss_Mod. It was my fault.


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Registered: May 16, 2006
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WEAPONS IN OUR SOCIETY.
has everything to do with OUR society.

let's not forget these guns are NOT falling from the sky.

the AK47 WAS NOT ORDAINED BY GOD.!!!!
it's all in
what the people who hold the power - - let happen.
even though that's not what they want u to think.

do YOU think OUR SOCIETY would let Bin Laden make a home for himself in Beverly Hills ???
so, how is it that they "let" weapons continue to flow throughout their society ????


TFL.
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Registered: February 05, 2007
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Please keep discussion on topic guys.


No shenanigans.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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All I was trying to say was that even though I don't know much about this subject,


right, so read through the thread and learn about it, that's why we keep it all archived like that

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You don't have to be rude about it.


I'm a blunt person


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 12, 2007
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shockingly if you don't know what to say, don't say anything. however we do make it hard to legally get guns. Sadly blackmarket firearms are avalible and they don't background check Roll Eyes, so no matter what gun laws you pass they only hurt law abiding gun owners


Look, I'm not against people having guns. All I was trying to say was that even though I don't know much about this subject, I wouldn't want just ANYONE having a gun. You don't have to be rude about it.


�Ancient lovers believed a kiss would literally unite their souls, because the spirit was said to be carried in one's breath.� - Eve Glicksman
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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All I know is that we shouldn't make it easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun so easily


shockingly if you don't know what to say, don't say anything. however we do make it hard to legally get guns. Sadly blackmarket firearms are avalible and they don't background check Roll Eyes, so no matter what gun laws you pass they only hurt law abiding gun owners


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 12, 2007
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I'm not sure what to say on this subject. All I know is that we shouldn't make it easy for criminals to get their hands on a gun so easily. On the other hand, people who are law abiding citizens should be able to have a gun in their household to protect themselves should they chose to do so because it makes them feel safer.


�Ancient lovers believed a kiss would literally unite their souls, because the spirit was said to be carried in one's breath.� - Eve Glicksman
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Registered: June 27, 2007
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I support total gun control

people need to be able to hit their targets


"In the quiet words of the Virgin Mary, come again?"
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Registered: July 24, 2006
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So seriously sports fans banning guns only punishes law-abiding gun owners

ex-freaking-actly.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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it's a hell of a lot easier to make bows, arrows, crossbows, and other archaic long-range weaponry.


yeah another famous prison weapon is the crossbow a guy made out of paper mache the elastic waist band from his underwear and a... I think the bolt head (cross bow rounds are "bolts", bows use arrows) was a razor blade or something and he actually scored a kill with it. So seriously sports fans banning guns only punishes law-abiding gun owners

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people would kill each other with their bare hands if they really wanted to


oh trust me it's not that hard, 8 pounds of pressure to your neck will snap it, a properly placed blow to the temple will cave it in. There are hundreds of ways to kill a human being with the just the weapons god gave you


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 24, 2006
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wrong! cause that scumbag with a knife who I use my gun to make go away would still be there.

sides there's no way in hell to get rid of them shoot you can make a gun out of metal plumbing parts (38. caliber, single shot bolt action)

That is very true...Besides, if guns were abolished, and people weren't smart enough to make the aforementioned plumbing rifle, it's a hell of a lot easier to make bows, arrows, crossbows, and other archaic long-range weaponry. All guns do is make it easier to get at people from further away than you can throw a knife.

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the population in our world would be 5 times it's population now if it weren't for guns.


WTF??? people would still be killing other people with knives and other weapons if it weren't for guns. And before you get started on the "Then we should abolish all weapons" super-hippie track, without weapons, people would kill each other with their bare hands if they really wanted to, and it's a little hard to abolish hands, now isn't it? and five times the population??? The world is over-crowded as it is without four more people on this planet for every one that currently exists.[/edit]

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This sets a new standard for "dumbest statement ever made" (congrats, you beat bush, france and every democrat in congress)


lmfao


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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but if guns were simply abolished completely then there would be no need


wrong! cause that scumbag with a knife who I use my gun to make go away would still be there.

sides there's no way in hell to get rid of them shoot you can make a gun out of metal plumbing parts (38. caliber, single shot bolt action)

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the population in our world would be 5 times it's population now if it weren't for guns.


This sets a new standard for "dumbest statement ever made" (congrats, you beat bush, france and every democrat in congress)

Adding together total firearms related deaths counting death from wars (not discerning from other things you can die from in war, like disease, or explosives, or anything like that) and your still no where close to a billion, or even the high 100 millions. to get 5 times more than 30 billion (6 billion x 5 billion) to get that 24 billion something like god... even thinking geometrically I can't comprehend the number of people that would have to have been killed and instead of being killed have 3+ children to get that extra 24 billion more people on the planet

shit average child birth per family in china was 10 kids per family and they just hit 2 billion


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: July 03, 2007
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a lot of people keep guns as self defense. but if guns were simply abolished completely then there would be no need. i mean i believe in self defense of course but i think there are many other ways to do it. the population in our world would be 5 times it's population now if it weren't for guns.


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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blaming the guns for people using them for things that are against the law is like blaming spoons for fat people.


very well put, indeed like a spoon a gun is merely a tool, designed primarily to aid in hunting food, putting a firearm to murderous intent is not hard, but neither is putting a spoon to gluttony


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: October 22, 2002
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Just a small observation, in the US the drinking age is 21!? Yet you are considered mature enough to run around with guns yet never mature enough to hear swear words on TV. Strange.


Guns don't inspire people to be violent: words and ideas do. That's why I'm surprised those aren't better-regulated.

Of course, regulations on swear words are a pathetic joke, but other forms of regulation of what can and cannot be broadcast, e.g. media violence, could be productive.


Liberals prefer equality - all people should be equally poor, unsafe and badly-educated.
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Registered: June 20, 2007
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I try to see evey side of every story. It dosn't matter how many saws the governmaent makes for controlling guns, people brake them anyway. So why make it harder for the the people who do abide by the law. I am a big hunting person so my familly own a lot of guns. But we fallow all laws for gun saftey. We unload them, open them up, keep them in a gun cabnit, keep it locked up, and the bullets sapperate. Now if u can tell me what kid would be able to get a gun out of that then I will throw all this in the trash. It's not the kids or the guns that should be responsible for kids with guns, it's the people who don't handle the guns the right way who should be responsible for it. Putting limits on guns because of people who dont fallow the laws would just make it harder for people who do fallow the laws like my family. blaming the guns for people using them for things that are against the law is like blaming spoons for fat people.
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