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Registered: November 08, 2003
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Socialist health care, communist union supporting him, and even his brother's murder by Laotian reds didn't make him support vietnam War. stupid marxist ****. i say we start a petition to make the liberal communist media stop supporting him right now with all their stupouid coveraghe of him. I hate VT.
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Registered: November 06, 2003
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It's conservatives like Bushrules that give all conservatives a bad name. I don't like Howard Dean, or his stances on issues. Doesn't mean he's a communist, maybe a socialist, but it's just ignorant and desperate to call liberals communists. Thanks for giving Republicans a bad name, Bushrules.
Registered: October 30, 2002
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The army didn't lie. The politicians and the media lied. Don't ever sit there and blame our brave men for the actions and behavior of our government.


Joe, I wasn't talking about the soldiers in the army. I was talking about all the generals, advisors and others who gave misinformation about the Vietcong practically from day one of the war. I've never attacked soldiers for the actions of their leaders.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Soldiers, even if they are not policy makers, are still responsible for their actions. If "following orders" was not a good enough excuse for Nazis in the Nuremburg trials, it's not a good enough excuse for anyone.
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army lying to the American public and waging a costly, hopeless bloody war in a country which was a corrupt third-world mess.


The army didn't lie. The politicians and the media lied. Don't ever sit there and blame our brave men for the actions and behavior of our government.


norrow, having a defense is actually proscribed by our constitution, but I'm in agreement with all that you said.

Consider the US a "mixed economy" but slowly getting more and more socialist.


Speaking of socialist/communist, let's look at Bush's record in office. Yeah, thought so. More communist-directed legislation since 1965; gosh, what really is the difference between Dean/Bush?

Gary Nolan 4 President!
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Registered: May 22, 2003
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I would vote for dean if i could vote. i would never vote for bush
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Registered: October 30, 2002
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We live in a socialist nation- the United States of America. Not entirely socialist, not even very much so, but the government, scary as is sounds, actually supports social institutions. That's right, folks: your tax dollars are going to support socialism! Everything from the military to the school system to politicians' paychecks comes socially. We don't pay private militias to defend our country, we spend the money on a common military. And we still have public money to stop crime, put our fires and send people to the emergency room. Like it or not, this makes us mostly capitalist, but semi-socialist. If we had universal national healthcare, for example, that would be a socoialist initiative, but so is everything else that we don't pay companies for. This is why I don't entirely understand the huge fuss over socialism. We are socialist.
Registered: October 30, 2002
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Yay, JusticeConservatism, you win the "Better than Ann Coulter" award!


Not like it's hard, all you have to do is not spout off reactionary rhetoric and BS constantly.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Yay, JusticeConservatism, you win the "Better than Ann Coulter" award!
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Registered: November 16, 2003
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I hate your sn! but if opposing war is making me a commie then so be it and don't insult a state you've probally never been to!oh and BUSH SUXopps I pressed it twice agian
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Registered: November 16, 2003
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I hate your sn! but if opposing war is making me a commie then so be it and don't insult a state you've probally never been to!oh and BUSH SUX
Registered: October 30, 2002
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you're all communists too.


No, but we're all logical people who actual give supporting statements instead of ranting on about how so and so is a "commie."

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Communism can't be better than authoritarianism becausei t is authoriytraianism.


Communism isn't authoritarianism. To go even further, "Commies" support two systems: Totalitarian Communism or Democratic Socialism. The former is way more extreme and horrible than any authoritarian government. And the later isn't oppressive, though it would be unconstitutional if it seriously took hold of the US since people wouldn't be compensated for their loss of property.

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I did prove he's commie, and vermont is full of cappuccino-drinking communists.That's what it's famous for.


No, you didn't. You said that he was a "commie" because he opposed both the Vietnam War and the Iraq War, which many people did, and because he was supported by Unions (which support many people). That isn't providing proof, that's providing rabidly right-wing accusations about someone. And Vermont might have a lot of leftists, but then so do many other places in the US (like the Northeast and California).

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Clinton sent lots of CIA and IRS people to enforce wealth redistribution. everyone opposing Vietnam was a hippie, so they were mind controlled by Rusha even if they weren't commies.


Taxation is not redistribution of wealth. The IRS only goes to your house when you don't pay your taxes, which are needed to support basically everything from the roads to the tanks we have in Iraq. As for everyone who opposed the Vietnam war being a hippie and "mind controlled by Rusha": First off, plenty of people who weren't hippies had a problem with the army lying to the American public and waging a costly, hopeless bloody war in a country which was a corrupt third-world mess. Secondly, if you can't spell (or write the english language correctly) learn to use spell-check, it's embarrassing.
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Registered: August 09, 2003
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Well, lets think about this, honestly.

Dean is the governor is Vermont...

That is like the Mayor of New York.
Dean is a good guy, but I don't think he can run a country.
Registered: August 07, 2001
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I'll be voting for Dean; examples of the inferior intelligence of some Bush supporters certainly won't change that. In the meantime, I'll be spelling correctly (which is apparently extremely difficult for some people).
Registered: May 23, 2003
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I'm sorry, there are no arguments to be made, you are just a complete tupping idiot.
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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Anyone but Bush for president!

YES!PLEASE!ANYONE BUT HIM!
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Registered: January 18, 2003
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Well, if the word "communist" sounds too hard, use the word "socialism" instead. Thier basically the same thing.

Uhh no, not really.
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Registered: July 30, 2003
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Anyone but Bush for president!
Registered: November 08, 2003
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I was respinding to everything all the commies like you said, mother****er idot. And icm, thank you for voting for him in the primaries; that way Bush will be guaranteed another term in office. No real American would ever vote Dean. He'll win VT and DC because those are commie places, but otherwise he's screwed. Like McGovern and Mondale, except Vt is an even ****tier no electoral vote state.
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Registered: July 30, 2003
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commutative capitalism, maybe?
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