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Picture of noisee
Registered: February 25, 2003
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Should physician assistant suicide be legal? What do you gals(guys) think?
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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Okay, maybe society isn't the best term. But you can't define a person't contribution to say, humanity, simply by their income ect. Great artists, authors, even philosophers have been what you might call a burden to society, but their contributions are undeniable. And when you say family problems: Is the person committing suicide the victim or the one causing trouble, or could he/she be either. Because when you said the rest of the family should at least be able to make themselves happy w/ the insurance money, it sounded like the suicide would be the one at fault for the situation. Love, Jen.
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Registered: July 08, 2002
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If your career fails and you have to receive unemployment money every week, how are you contributing to society? Family problems depend on the severity. If there's still love left in the damaged relationships, there's always hope. But if not, the moral thing to do is at least let the people who once loved you make themselves happy with life insurance moeny.
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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Meh, I'm not so religious anymore. Not Christian at least, at the moment. Not really sure what I am. Okay, paralysis ect I can see, but career failure? People have so much more to contribute to society than just their work. Criminal orgs, maybe, but how many people would be involved w/ them? I wouldn't think any substantial percentage. It just seems like family problems are one of those temporary things that don't require a permanent solution. They may not go away, but you can work through them. Love, Jen.
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Well, not things you'd consider reasons to kill yourself. But if I remember right, you're religious. From a non-religious viewpoint where no punishment will come, there are plenty of things that would justify suicide. Terminal illness is probably the worst, but there's also life-changing injury (paralysis especially comes to mind), catastrophic career failure that would cause one to be a burden on society, involvement with criminal organizations which want to kill one in more painful ways, even family problems if one has good insurance and would not be missed by the rest of the family.
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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Plenty of people w/o psychological problems might want to kill themselves, not just the terminally ill.


Examples? Because I can't really think of many good reasons to kill yourself. Love, Jen. P.S....Not sarcasm.
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Yes, psych screening should be necesary first. Plenty of people w/o psychological problems might want to kill themselves, not just the terminally ill. That's why I say it should only be restricted in extreme cases instead of allowed only in extreme cases.
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Registered: September 08, 2003
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But docs have a responsibility to care for the mental as well as physical well-being of their patients, and make sure they are capable of making rational decisions before beginning "treatment." And if the patient wants to kill themself, chances are they have some sort of psychological problem, unless there is a very good reason (like the constant pain of an illness that can't be cured.) That's where the qualifiers and psych screening come in. Love, Jen.
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Suicide is the individual's choice. If it's physician-assisted, that just means the Dr. prescribes meds they can take to kill themselves. Doctors are supposed to do what the patient wants so long as no physical harm will come to anyone else, so every time they obey the laws against physician-assisted suicide, they commit an ethical violation.
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Maybe, but only in extreme cases such as terminal illnesses ect., and there would have to be strict qualifiers and laws, as well as psych evaluations, ect. And even then, I'm not sure. Love, Jen.
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