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Where is the monetary incentive to practice Christianity??

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Apples and oranges.

I never said ALL thing require monetary incentive to do. I said work.

Why do people work? To make money. This is how it is supposed to be. Make money to support your family, and yourself.

Christianity practices that being rich is bad, because you can love the spoils of the world too much. Jesus told a rich man to sell everything, give the money to the poor and follow him.
So Christianity and Socialism go hand in hand in this aspect. Again I myself plan to not have anymore then I absolutely need. But Jesus never said to steal from others to help the poor.

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unless there is another area for incentive.

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Going to heaven.

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Stop being so damn greedy and have some compassion for your fellow man if you are such a Christian! Shame on you.

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1) I never said absolutely all socialism is wrong.
But I do believe the welfare system needs reforming.

2) FORCING people to donate money is stealing, which is non-Christian as well.

3) I Do believe in Charity. I plan to donate most of my money to non-profit organization.

I do encourage compassion, but I don't believe in compassion slaves.
If someone is going to be compassionate then they are, if not, they will lie, cheat steal and kill to get around it.

Jesus never forced anyone to do anything. He showed people the way, it was up to them to follow it.
I believe exactly the same things.

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The world isn't full of mother Teresa’s my friend. And if you think so your delusional.

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Ahh, but who is the delusional one here!!!
Where is the monetary incentive to practice Christianity?? So in theory nobody would be practicing Christianity, unless there is another area for incentive.

I dont deny that it is possible to make your way to the top without government handouts. But lets forget about being rich and successful. How about just surviving, making it from day to day? So sometimes people make bad mistakes. Does that mean they should be out on the streets, with no help at all? Just because some poor child's parents screwed up should they have no healthcare?
Stop being so damn greedy and have some compassion for your fellow man if you are such a Christian! Shame on you.

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Time to make a choice here, stand on your incentive plank or pick your religion, you can't have both here or else you are a hypocrite.

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The world isn't full of mother Teresa’s my friend. And if you think so your delusional.

Christianity isn't a form of government, and if it where it would fail just as well as communism.

I don't believe in greed. But I do believe people deserve the money they make.

But again I think Communism is a good idea.
I'd be set for life and never have to lift a finger, I'd just let some one eelse do the work for me.

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How dare you say there aren't any Communist countries when they've implemented the damn Manifesto.

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Are you really that dense? Are your reading comprehension skills THAT poor? Anarcho-nut cases like you consistently misquote and misunderstand the Communist Manifesto. The Communist Manifesto is not meant to explain how Communism or Marxism should be carried out; it's meant to give a VERY basic outline of thinking. Like I have said before Marx's book on how a government should be run is Das Kapital, NOT the Communist Manifesto. Also another premise of your argument is fundamentally flawed because you are simply saying just because one supports ideal's that Marx's shared that automatically makes them a Marxist's. That's like saying because you support Christianity you support the KKK. They claim to be Christian don't they; they are just another variation of a Christian group aren't they? So that means you are in association with the KKK Joey.

I love the liberal entertainment and media industries: hollywood, music industry, film industry, newspapers, network television, *happy sigh*

Oh, anyway, I'm about to smash your whole little, "republicans are more educated than democrats" theory let's take that very same theory and apply it to let's say....europe... europeans, who are more liberal than the average american ever would be, and europeans, who are more educated than the average american ever will be... hmmmm....k, bye

My particular grievance with your argument is not the fact that the term "incentive" is subjective, but rather you are limiting it to one meaning. One of the main problems with an argument based on incentive is most people base it on a monetary plank. But surely you don't believe money is the only area people get incentive to do something. Surely you, off all people, a Christian, wouldn't believe that because if you did your religion would loose its entire basis. Time to make a choice here, stand on your incentive plank or pick your religion, you can't have both here or else you are a hypocrite.

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One of the greatest beliefs about this country is you can start life poor and make yourself a rich and successful member of society.

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Yeah, look at Ross Perot. Did he have a degree? No. Did he receive government handouts? No.

He worked his A off and guess what? He won 19 percent of the vote in the 1992 presidential race, AND he's a billionaire.

You don't get from bottom-to-top by being dependent on the Government.

You get it by working hard, being responsible, and saving your earnings.

Besides, the rich people don't fund 80 percent probably of your precious and failed socialist programs.

The middle class does.

And magnus, I'll have you know that it is not YOUR right, nor is it your PARENTS right, nor is it my NEIGHBORS right, to my own money. You are not in any capacity whatsoever to steal my money that I earned.

There is no equality in theft. I don't care how many variations of Communism there are, or where it's gone wrong...the fact of the matter is, every single plank in Marx' Communist Manifesto is working in this country. How dare you say there aren't any Communist countries when they've implemented the damn Manifesto.

Want to know why the U.S. is so powerful and rich? Because it's the only country to have ever been founded on CAPITALISM.

And I'm not spreading corporatism at all. The private sector does do a more efficient job than the government ever will, but have you not seen the makeup of a corporation? They're miniature Communist dictatorships.

I never said poor people cant succeed. Im poor, and I damn well plan on succeeding. Anyway, I dont think you understand what I am saying. I dont support socialism where everyone makes the same amount of money, I only support social programs that will give everyone an equal footing. The Basics. Healthcare, education, support for the elderly, basic social programs. I do however support higher taxation for the wealthy to support these social programs, but not so much taxation that the rich arnt really rich anymore.

Statistically, Republicans are better educated than Democrats. While republican doesn't necessarily equal "conservative" and liberal doesn't always equal Democrat, it's a pretty good estimate of relative education levels. Frankly, if you look at liberals' core base - inner-city folks who are lucky to have a ninth-grade education and union members, versus conservatism being more oriented towards management-level individuals, the disparity between conservatives and liberals, education-wise, is probably even greater than in the survey.

Demographics os Republicans versus Democrats

Sorry for the older link but you have to pay to see Gallup polls

Tweet. People who are poor can succeed, it happens every day.
Not everyone who is successful was always born rich. Take Bill Gates for example.

Taking money people earn isn't going to want to make anyone succeed.

There is not incentive to succeed, because if you do, say invent a computer program everyone uses, you will only be making as much money off of it as the person to makes sure the box lids are closed at the end of the assembly line.

And don't give me crap about incentive being subjective. Equality is subjective as well.

Like I said, why study to be a doctor when you can make just as well a living as a roller skate repair-man.

If all you get, no matter what you do, is as much as everyone else, then why work any harder than you have to? You get paid the same either way.

If you panelize people for making money, why make money?

I am not uneducated, nor am I unintelligent, thank you very much. I do not advocate pure socialism, what I advocate is a perfect balance that in fact would realize one of the greatest values of this country: Equality of Opportunity. One of the greatest beliefs about this country is you can start life poor and make yourself a rich and successful member of society. Well how is that possible if your family is so poor that they cannot afford proper healthcare for you? How is that possible in this day and age without a proper education? Pretty much all high ranking and paying jobs today require a college degree. Why shouldnt people have the tools they need to be successful?

"I am not a communist, I am a Marxist, Leninist."
-Lee Harvey Oswald

I think communism is great.
I for one would never go to work, or at least not something that required actual work. Like guessing people's weight.

Why spend 6 years in college to be a doctor when I make just as much money as a roller skate repair-man?

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Joe isn't spreading Corporatism. Corporatism is state capitalism where the state and corporations work together in the economy. What Joe is advocating is Free-Market Capitalism. There's actually a big difference between the two systems.

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I recognize that Joey BELIEVES he is supporting Free-market capitalism, but in actuality he is supporting Corporatism.

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So is the Corporatism your spreading

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Joe isn't spreading Corporatism. Corporatism is state capitalism where the state and corporations work together in the economy. What Joe is advocating is Free-Market Capitalism. There's actually a big difference between the two systems.

Once again, Mr. Dauben, let us not confuse education and intelligence.

Education is not only that which you have clearly identified, holding a degree, but also understanding both sides of an issue.

Your radical interpretation of "Marxists teaching Economics" does nothing to support your theory of professors not being educated.

They need not agree with other sides of an issue, but as long as they understand their fundamental meanings, they are indeed educated.

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Communism, socialism ...it's crap

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And I must say, you do have an interesting way of offering opinion with no logic behind that opinion.

It's so strangely beautiful that theses paranoid conservatives are so incredibly afraid of the communist countries- and there aren't any. Simply stunning, really.

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Communism/socialism has never worked. Ever.

It's not working now, it didn't work in Russia, and it's not working in Cuba.

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That’s because these countries weren't truly communist and in fact they used the name of communism as a tool to get control. There is a distinct difference between Soviet (Stalinism, Trotskyism, Leninism), Cuban, Chinese (Maoism), Vietnamese, and Korean Communism, vs. what was actually said by Marx in Das Kapital.

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Communism, socialism ...it's crap

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So is the Corporatism your spreading

Tweet, you're an example of an uneducated leftist.

Communism/socialism has never worked. Ever.

It's not working now, it didn't work in Russia, and it's not working in Cuba.


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it is usually the leftists who are educated...teachers, professors, etc

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Marxists teaching economics at Notre Dame for example, are not "educated." Yes, they went to college to obtain a degree, but what are they doing with that degree? They're spreading crap.

Communism, socialism ...it's crap.

May I suggest: http://www.bureaucrash.com