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Picture of CaspiansSon
Registered: December 05, 2003
Posts: 107
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Wow, BoundForGlory, I'm impressed at the amount of racism you can spew all in one post.

Do you think the "White man" ever gave Spanish or black people the chance to do it by themselves? In my experience, the "White man" has always felt the need to butt in and take over so other people don't get the chance to do their stuff themselves, without help. Do you think Spanish and black people always ASK for help?

It would be interesting to sit down with a cup of coffee or tea and see what you have to say in person.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Wow, BoundForGlory, good job of sneaking in white supremacy at the end there. Want to talk about Jews now?
Registered: January 02, 2004
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So boundforglory, ya wanna go with statistics? Well, when it comes to posession of illegal drugs, white males are at the top of the list.

Ok, well that is probably because Whites constitute over 70% of the population. If you were to take a sample of 100 random blacks and 100 random whites, the probability of having more black drug addicts/dealers would probably be significantly higher. The supposed statistic you are throwing at me isn't even proportional to the size of racial populations.


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True, however this is not due to race. We already know that poverty causes crime. Blacks and hispanics also have the highest numbers living in poverty.....

Well, first of all, even if poverty is the cause, which I don't think it is, this doesn't mean people aren't responsible for their actions. Like I said, there is no justification for crime unless the laws are unjust, which they aren't. One observation made is that both Blacks and Mexicans have been incapable of building and maintaining a successful civilization throughout history. I think this tells us quite a lot. Without the aid of the White man, or the Asian, Blacks and Mestizos have proven that they both are only capable of existing in 3rd world nations. Their inherent, essential survival skills are primitive and inferior. I believe that most Blacks are genetically prone to violence. Crime rates reflect the validity of this theory. Equality more than exists in opportunity in this country, why are blacks and mestizos still unable to utilize their handouts?
Picture of DrStrangelove
Registered: March 13, 2002
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Prove it to be otherwise then. Statistics show that black males are the primary criminals in this country. This is an irrefragable fact.


True, however this is not due to race. We already know that poverty causes crime. Blacks and hispanics also have the highest numbers living in poverty. Logically then, we can say that in all likelyhood, this increased rate for blacks is greatly aided by poverty. Poverty is not caused by race. It is caused by poor education, arguably aided by mismanaged social welfare programs, and is a part of a capitalist system. Since we already have logical and supported reasons why the increased rate of crime for Blacks is a cultural and economic issue, it's up to you to prove why race (genetic heritage) comes into it.
As I told you before, the burden of proof is on the accuser.
Picture of lpfan289
Registered: September 14, 2003
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So boundforglory, ya wanna go with statistics? Well, when it comes to posession of illegal drugs, white males are at the top of the list.
Picture of Mr.Blue07
Registered: October 05, 2003
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Odds are there is still more outnumbering black gangs, Which are much more hostile.
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No i don't live in those places.
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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That's if you live in New Mexico or San Diego, try the other 100 big cities.
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Registered: September 14, 2003
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Just so you know, most gangs are made up of chunthie's and chola's. That would be Mexican gangsta boys and girls. I don't mean to sound offensive, because i'm half Mexican, but trust somebody who has to walk home by it everyday.
Registered: January 02, 2004
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That's stupid. The colour of your skin cannot make you inherently more or less violent.

Prove it to be otherwise then. Statistics show that black males are the primary criminals in this country. This is an irrefragable fact. There is no justification for crime.

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Living in underprivileged/undereducated areas can lead to a culture of violence, so that's probably the reason why proportionally black people commit more crime in the States, because they are more often in that situation.

No, sorry, that is incorrect. Look at history. Was the crime rate during the great depression as high as it is for blacks today? The answer is no. Poverty can be to blame in specific circumstances, but you can't consider it the cause of black crime. Even if it were, blacks are just as responsible for themselves in this country as Whites are. Equality in opportunity exists today, if you haven't noticed. Actually, blacks have MORE opportunities than Whites in this new, multicultural era.

Inevitably, White America will perish. As each year goes by, we feel as if we've lost our sense of community to a greater extent. Without the right to pursue their destiny and have self-determination, any race is doomed to face non-existence.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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My opinion?

You're a bigot.
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Registered: December 20, 2002
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That's stupid. The colour of your skin cannot make you inherently more or less violent. Living in underprivileged/undereducated areas can lead to a culture of violence, so that's probably the reason why proportionally black people commit more crime in the States, because they are more often in that situation. You have to judge it on the individual and their background.

I don't know whether the idea that black people are judged more harshly in court is true. Maybe that is the case sometimes. It certainly seems true to me that white people with racist tendencies would be more inclined to accuse a black man of a crime, whether the public or the police.

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Black people are a more closely related race to that of primates then those of other races.
?! Oh, mmhmm, obviously. Yes, your argument makes perfect sense now. Wait, What?! That wouldn't make sense even if they were! Seems to me humans are just as violent as apes. And the very suggestion that black people are more like apes than the rest of us, where the hell is your reasoning of that? You're coming close to saying 'they're subhuman'. And you can't say that's not racist.

Inky
Registered: January 02, 2004
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If blacks aren't violent, then please explain how they only constitute 12% of the U.S. population and a majority of the prison populations? Please explain how 1 in every 3 black males have gone through some form of correction at one point in their life. And don't give me that "the law is racist" B/S.
Picture of Mr.Blue07
Registered: October 05, 2003
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Of course, every race does have the notoriously violent people

White= Charles Mansion; Hitler
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Registered: October 05, 2003
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You guys want proof?
Look at West Oakland
Somolia
Prisons
Homicide rates

Once again, African Americans are more prone to being violent than other races. I'm not being racist, I'm stating the facts.

Comodore- instead of having people repeat themselves, why don't you offer up your own opinion.
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Registered: December 19, 2003
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Beyoncethree: "I am new at this, but I do have a response to the present topic. Just because a person is black doesn't mean that they are violent. I am black and I am not violent. The media of today portrays blacks as violent and uneducated. That is true in many cases, but not in all. We must keep in mind that there are many blacks that are not uneducated and violent. You mustn't let society mold your views toward a certain person or race. For example, I am not prejudice against middle-eastern people. If I did let society mold my views I would run from every middle-eastern person I saw. Now, I propose a question to all of you. Would it be right for me to do that? "


Thank you.
I am black myself.
My cousin, she is on her way to medical school.MEDICAL SCHOOL!
My aunt is in college.
Another one of my cousins is in college.

Don't let the media corrupt your mind. Think for yourselves sometimes.
Picture of LinkinParkGurl88
Registered: December 19, 2003
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Yes and no.
Every race has violent people. Trust me.
Who cares if more blacks or more whites commit what crimes?
Its a crime. Thats all that matters. Not the race of the people that commit it.

Trust me, all the screw-ups of every race do not represent that WHOLE race.
Plus, I have read that most trials that involve black people are done unfairly compared with the trials of white people.

But to me, race and color, is nothing but skin pigmentation.
Picture of MyVietnam
Registered: January 02, 2004
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i think that you say that because you live in new york but you haveto consider the rest of the us
Registered: January 02, 2004
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Yes.
Registered: January 02, 2004
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well i think every race has their violent people, where i am from most of them are the hispanics. but there are alot of awesome people from every race. and if the blacks are more violent now, then maybe its because they are holding the past against everyone else...way back in the slavery times....my boyfriend tries to argue with me about that all the time, but then i tell him to shut up and that it all went down a long time ago, and he is hispanic and he still argues. any ways black people are cool so dont diss on them they are not any more violent then any one else. Smile
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