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Registered: October 13, 2002
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Registered: October 26, 2003
Posts: 1977
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The simplest way for everyone to help out is to recycle...newspapers, bottles, etc.. Have a two separate bins in each room - one for trash and the other for recyclables. It makes recycling a lot easier.
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 319
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The best protector of the "enviorment" is private property.
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Registered: February 09, 2002
Posts: 204
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This seems a bit redundant...we've hit this topic before. You all know my stance on environmentalism..and if you don't, check the post i made about it before in the topic labeled "environmentalism."
Acer
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Registered: August 12, 2002
Posts: 48
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I agree with marine15.People are doing what they can do to help the Earth.That Global warming crap is so stupid.It has been documented by different scientists that the Earth goes through spells of that it grows warm and then grows cold;and NOT because of people.That "ozone hole" stuff is also crap,bacause it also has been found that the ozone layer naturally deteriorates and then builds up over several years;also not because of people. The point is that people are making such a fuss about this pollution thing,when people are doing what they can to help.Another thing is that people are making such a fuss about "the destroying of Earth" when half of the time the Earth takes care of itself. Yes,the Earth needs immediate attention on things,like the dumping of toxic waste,for instance,but on cetain other things,people are making a big deal out of nothing.:eek: -Caylah
Have any comments or questions,e-mail me at blondteen@earthlink.net
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Betherex, have you ever heard of natures cycle? Apparntley you haven't, your hippie geography teacher probably left out natural cycles when she discussed changes in the enviorment. Why do you think the polar ice-caps melted? Because the earth tilted a few degress closer to the sun, not because of pollution. Why do you think it is getting a little warmer now? The earth is tiliting towards to sun.
Time is not running out fast, in fact it is not running out at all. things are getting better. As I have said before, there are now fish in manchester bay, LA has not had a polluton alert in 20 years and the holes in the ozone are closing.
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Registered: May 18, 2002
Posts: 1111
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Just from the weather we can see the effect we're having already on the environment. In Britain there's been severe flooding for the past three winters. Aside from the fact that what we're doing to the planet is killing off other species, it's also going to have severe consequences for us as a race. Floods, droughts, storms, the melting of the polar ice caps, disruption to farming due to messed up ecosystems… not to mention the death of the skiing industry! Time's running out fast and I can't believe that people are still ignoring this vital issue. We need to start using renewable energy sources a lot more (large-scale wind power is a very feasible option in Britain but they're not doing anything about it!) and find a cleaner method of transport. We have to start repairing the damage to this planet before it's too late.
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Registered: August 05, 2002
Posts: 679
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marine, what paper are you reading? just curious. "no more money needs to be wasted." WASTED! WASTED! SOLAR POWER COULD SAVE MONEY IN SO MANY WAYS! PLUS SO MUCH MONEY GETS BLOWN ON STUPID S*** ANYWAY, HOW ABOUT CUTTING BACK ON SOME OF THAT CRAP FIRST!!!!
would you contend that fossil fuels are an unlimited resource? we will NEVER run out right. would you also agree that everything in our power should be exhausted to obtain every little bit of oil from this planet until it's all gone. it works now. why should it fail us later, right?
fuel emissions don't contribute or will never contribute to poor health also, huh?
BEING DEPENDENT ON ALTERNATIVE AND RENEWABLE RESOURCES IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN!!!! IT HAS TO! contrary to marines contention, we will eventually exhaust fossil fuels. probably literaly, but it WILL happen. then what? then you people will dust off all this altenergy policies, when it's probably to late, and monopolize that!!
solar power works. and it's moving toward fuel cells, which recycles unused solar energy through the home\car\building. it's ingenious, and THE WHITE HOUSE IS DUMB FOR IGNORING THE OPPURTUNITY!!!! the price for building a solar power building is $200,000. they could build homes, shelters, offices, greenhouses for desert organic farms, the possibilities, are endless, my god they are dumb. why. why why why why is oil reverred so much?
i won't even go into cars. that market would be open for centuraries.
the idea is so simple it's radical. yet. plus the whole idea promotes a wholistic and environmentally friendly attitude, which honestly is lacking in this society. yeah, there's treehuggers, and recycling and SAVE THE CHILDREN and rainforest patitions.... but does anyone in this country really care?????
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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It is common knwoledge. Pick up a news paper or investigate on the internet. You will find non of my claims false.
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Registered: October 13, 2001
Posts: 482
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Marine -- Where do you get that stuff?
Love, Jenny
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Lets see, how bad is the enviroment. Fish are now swimming in Machester Bay, holes in the ozone layer are shrinking and LA has not had a pullution alert in more than 20 years. Our current stance on the enviroment is fine nothing needs to changes. No extra money needs to be wasted.
As for third world countries polluting, they have to pollute the become economically stable.
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Registered: October 13, 2001
Posts: 482
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The thing is, it's obvious to many people (the Green Party socialists you referred to) that caring for our planet is far more important than certain individual rights.
It's a much more dire situation than we've been lead to believe. The way we treat the environment is key to the survival of our species, as well as others.
Also, I personally believe that an individual does not have a right to infringe on another's rights. (Does that make sense?) For instance, you may say that it's your right to buy whatever kind of coffee you want, without any governments being allowed to modify the freedom of the coffee industry -- but on the other side, laborers on coffee plantations across the world are oppressed, enslaved, and their leaders are killed so you can have your damn coffee -- not to mention acres upon acres of virgin forests being burnt to a crisp and leveled, then soaked with pesticides and herbicides and monocropped until the land is totally infertile. Is your right to drink coffee more important than the rights of the trees, the animals, the people, the ecosystem, and the earth as a whole? Most people say "yes" -- if not directly, then with their everyday actions. I'd like to say "no".
Love, Jenny
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Well, I'll be the one to decide if I eat junk food or not.
I'll be the one who decides what goes on my property.
And I'll be the person who decides what things I should do.
I don't need some governmental regulation telling me what I should do, how much money I should pay to do it (i.e., taxes) or any other insane proposition the "environmental movement" tosses out.
Take it from a guy who lives minutes from the "Cement Capital of Texas."
It's absolutely disqusting to drive outside and see the smog and pollution and to breathe it in.
But I don't need the EPA, FEMA or any other government regulation agency dictating what I should do or not do.
And I sure as heck don't need some politician telling me that I need to lay low on junk food.
All this talk makes me want to go to McDonalds and eat, eat, eat.
lol
I love the earth like you guys love the earth, but I'm not much of a fan of that whole Green Party socialism.
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Registered: August 06, 2002
Posts: 192
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I say, encourage your school to implement a mandatory recycling program. That would be great; you could raise awareness about the amount of energy that we waste, and help stop wasteful behaviors.
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Registered: July 07, 2002
Posts: 429
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It might not make a huge difference, but I think developing alternative energy sources is a step in the right direction. Fossil fuels are a limited resource, but there's always more hydrogen/wind/sunlight/etc.
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Registered: October 13, 2001
Posts: 482
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Some guy wrote a book called 101 Things You Can Do to Save the Planet or something like that. Anyway, in an interview about the book, he admitted that, even if everyone in the world started doing those things immediately, it would only "save" our planet for about 6 days.
The point is, recycling and buying a car that gets 25 mpg instead of 15 is NOT going to save the planet. Ulitmately, it has to come from a real revolution in the way that we as a species think of mother earth.
Love, Jenny (radical environmentalist extraordinaire)
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Registered: November 06, 2001
Posts: 35
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It all starts with one. One person can change the world. Everybody needs to do their own small part in conserving the environment such as not driving gas hogs like SUVs, motorhomes, etc. Recycling and using less energy and water in your home are also helpful. 
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