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Registered: August 06, 2003
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As for children who die, God knows whether or not they were old enough to accept him or not. He also knows their hearts. The Lord is very just and will always do what is right.

And as for those who never hear the Gospel. God will take care of them, they are his children. Why worry so much about them. Shouldn't you focus on yourself, who has herad the Truth, but has rejected it.
Registered: August 06, 2003
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The Bible is the absolute word of God. He would not let it become corupted. So of course i beleive everything in the Bible. There is also scientific proof that the Bible hasn't changed since it was written. Yeah ok maybe a minor word change here and there, but nothing that would change the meaning of what it says.

The Bible says to spread the word. it isn't up to us to decied who to tell and who not to tell we should tell everyone we can.
Registered: July 24, 2003
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BillyBarrio is absolutly right what kind of sick person says that kind of stuff joking or serious
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Registered: July 14, 2003
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*plugs ears* lalalalalala I do not care about a new religion lalalala I am an innocent.

i wish i was, meh, i don't wanna go to hell but i am buddhist, so there is no such thing. i used to be christian so it sometimes does freak me out i may go to hell. but i am gonna have a chat with god. tell him that he didn't show up that much, or at all for that fact. tell him i am his kid, so how could he make me suffer for not believing i would see him when i died, when he did not show himself. then suggest if he wants to boost his rating, to give concerts. and make sure there are glowsticks.

Big Grin
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Registered: February 08, 2003
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It says in the Bible that as soon as you are old enough to recognise right from wrong, you are then held accountable for your actions.


and u actually believe that?cmon...the bible's like 7000 years old. they don't have tape recorders. it's all written by hands. now the laws said once youre 18 you're accountable for your actions.
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I think it is sad when a baby dies and the parents are not believers, because they will never see their child again.


who told u that?!they can still see their child again. just open the coffin and there!!
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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I think it is sad when a baby dies and the parents are not believers, because they will never see their child again.


how twisted was that statement? Someone back me up here...
Registered: August 05, 2003
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Haven't you ever heard of the age of accountability? It says in the Bible that as soon as you are old enough to recognise right from wrong, you are then held accountable for your actions. Whe you are too young to comprehend, you can't be expected to discern. I think it is sad when a baby dies and the parents are not believers, because they will never see their child again.
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People aren't born evil they choose to be that way. So what if a baby dies after birth they can'r accept Christ. So they go to heaven right, well at least that's what I believe


Of course, anyone who is rational would believe this. However Christianity preaches "Original Sin" which means you pay for the crimes of your parents. Accordding to Christianity, a baby is taken from it's parents because of their sin. To go even further Jesus states(I don't have a quote) various times that "Original Sin" may last four to ten generations. Meaning you may pay with eternity in Hell for acts of people related to you over 1,000 years ago. This is just throwing any logic out the door and yet another fear tactic.
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Registered: June 27, 2003
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If you have never heard about Christ and you don't know what he wants from you then how can you have a dark heart? People aren't born evil they choose to be that way. So what if a baby dies after birth they can'r accept Christ. So they go to heaven right, well at least that's what I believe. I say if a person haven't ever heard of God and his amazing works then there's no way they can come to accept him. They still go to heaven and their they can hear the word of God.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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So I'll answer. I believe that God gives you a chance after you die to accept the right faith. It wouldn't be right to the people who never got a chance to even think twice if they rejected it first or those who never heard at all, like abortion victims.
that's what i think
Registered: August 06, 2003
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As Christians we are told to spread the Good News about Jesus. Many try to do this by force feeding religion to others, and trying to make them believe. You can't make someone believe no matter how hard you try.
Witnessing to others should be more passive than what many think. It is about being open with your faith, and letting others know the Truth, and then letting them come to a desicion on their own while you focus on being avalible to answer questions they may have about Jesus, God, the Bible, and your faith.
As for those who have never heard of the Gospel. Why are you so worried about them. God will take care of his children. You should be more concerned about yourself who has heard the Gospel but has rejected it.
Registered: August 07, 2003
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You're not automatically innocent if you've never heard of Christ. I think it's the same as what happened in the Old Testament, before Jesus's birth, death, and resurrection:

If you had a pure heart, you went to Heaven, but if you had a dark heart, to the pit with you. Basically.

So why should we both telling people about Christ? Because there's a better chance they'll go to hell without Him than to heaven. There's a void in the life without God, and sometimes people do bad things to try to fill that void. Besides, God can always use more members for His cause. And He loves everyone, so He wants them all to be part of his family. Imagine, if we just stopped telling people about God and hoped for the best, there would eventually be no more Christians. With no more Christians, there is no more praying. With no more praying, there is a lot more death, sickness, and destruction.

Prayer is power. That's what it's all about.
Registered: July 24, 2003
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One thing about being a christian is that you are suposed to tell others the good news and if I told somebody about Christ and it was their first time hearing it and they believed in Christ then he would tell others. So by me telling him I might start a chain of people to get saved wheather or not they have heard about christianity or not
Registered: July 24, 2003
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The way I figure it there are enough people that have heard about God and rejected him that I would never get a chance to talk to many people who are totaly unaware of God
Registered: July 24, 2003
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ItalainStallion, just a little fact about christianity that you might want to know. In order to get into heaven according to christianity you must accept that christ lived a perfect life, that he died on the cross for everybodys sins, and then rose agian on the third day after he died. Just living a good life doesn't get you into heaven
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Registered: July 12, 2003
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I veiw my christianity like this because of my relationship with christ i am on a different set of tracks then others(i.e.atheists)and though my road may not be as scenic or as lively as you see yours to be, yours will end soon.And mine will keep on going to gifts and tresures that are hundreds of billions times better then the "other" routes short lived life.So there is no reason to think my religion is of folly and lies cause in the end my reward is greater then that of yours.
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Registered: July 12, 2003
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I think God,jesus, presents himselves to people in his own way.And I think he does it to everyone and they choose to believe it or not.I have a whole lotta freinds from Seirra Leone and they had never heard of Jesus, but knew of a higher power (GOD) and worshiped the ways we do.They knew the same God but called him by a different name.
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Registered: June 27, 2003
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So why is it so wrong to be a christian? You say you have done so much more stuff because your an atheist. Well that's not good. So i guess it's alright not to have any morals uh? We need more christians in this world as far as i can see. Hey all of you should start thinking about it, because HELL is a hot place. Not even a drop of water to quench your thirst for the rest of your lives. Also America is hell right now I don't see why anybody would want to continue down the same path. Don't knock us Christians, because we are doing what's right.
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Registered: March 17, 2002
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Once again, I am only repsonding to the original post and nothing further.

No, I don't agree with your logic, however it is quite a compelling claim. Furthermore, my response will differ from a true Christian response. The response I will give is merely my own opinion on the situation.

For me, anyone who does not know of the Christian faith or knows of it and chooses to reject it anyways can still be saved. For example, there are plenty of people in this world who are proclaimed atheists. At the same time, these people are not critical of the church or religion in general, but are merely doubters for other reasons. If we accept the truth that only God himself is all-knowing, then we can assume that mortals are living ignorantly to the greater truths known only by God. Therefore, if people knowing of Christianity reject God, but live a good life, whether or not they know they are living by Christian ideals, then they may be granted admission to heaven, at God's discretion of course. As mortals cannot judge who goes to heaven and who goes to hell, so it is true that we cannot truly know who will go in either direction. It is only by the courses that we take. As a Christian, it is my duty to God to spread his word to all people. If they reject my claim, it could be because I am a poor linguist or I offended the person in some manner that they choose to reject. Since I am an imperfect mortal, I can only relate what I have been told and what I have read, nothing further. It is only through reflection and discussion with God that we can have this epiphany. For me, this reflection comes through prayer, but it is also my belief that the decision can be made a heaven's door. God is forgiving, and we as mortals should not be so quick to judge.

However, this claim may be wrong. As I said, this is not the traditional answer a Christian would give, this is merely my own opinion. I believe in God and have accepted Him into my heart. By this act, as decreed by the Christian faith, I will gain admittance into Heaven so long as I adhere to these principles until the end. As for others, their may be additional ways to enter heaven besides faith alone. Perhaps good deeds will grant admission. I do not know the answers, but I do hope that all will see the truth of God and that those alternate admission processes will not be necessary.

So, as a Christian, I will continue to spread the word of God in the hope that it does not fall upon deaf ears.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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I mean, from my point of view becoming a christian is probably the best thing about my life. It has helped me to get through so many hard times and make the good ones even better. Why wouldnt I want my fellow human beings to get the chance to experience that?



Hmm, that's strange, to me leaving Christianity far behind me in a distant memory has changed my life for the better. I have learned so much more, done so much more and seen so much more. Why wouldn't I want to share that with everyone I know? I'll tell you why, because not everyone can see clearly...some of us wern't meant to understand life...some of us need answers, no matter how unbelievable they are. Some of us don't care about the truth as long as someone else is willing to feed us the answers.
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