Holy frick, it was a joke. Have you no sense of humor? That was the point. If "akkuse" was the only thing you noticed wrong from my post, you seriously have some problems.

yeah i agree, i'd never 'akkuse' someone of being dumb for silly reasons such as, oh i don't know...inability to spell.

Who ever thinks us As americans are the stupidest is just really ratarded, you no? Its just sad peple akkuse we all os being dummer. Whatev.

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personally, i think the phrase "dumb american" is redundant.

I see. America became the wealthiest and most powerful nation in the world through pure luck.

Checkyoursix, you are an awesome newbie.

Kinda funny that this thread got hijacked.
Personaly, I think it's senseless to name a country like America stupid. America has citizens from every country in the world. We're not just one ethnic group, so saying America is stupid is like saying humans are stupid (which is debatably be true). Now, if you want to make a point about the quality of America's education system, I agree. Hell...I'm posting this now from High School Photography.

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Originally posted by bluedemocrat:
Sphinx, I'd suggest reading about Israel and trying to look at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from the perspective of Israel.

I'm not against reading more about the conflict, I'm sort of short on time right now but I'm planning on it - Hopefully soon. I doubt my opinions will change though, the issue is pretty personal for me.

personally, i think the phrase "dumb american" is redundant.

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well if a zygote/fetus is decied to be human then it's defending human life against mass murder which I would call justified interfearance

Within the medical community, it is pretty much accepted that a zygote is not alive.

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Im sure we all saw what happened in Somalia, Bosnia

two excellent reasons why the UN is a waste of space and utilities (at least in New York) someone please move these idiots to switzerland or some where we don't have to care. I reccomend one of the places they tried to clean up...like serbia

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As seen in the "crusades' against homosexuality and abortion.

well if a zygote/fetus is decied to be human then it's defending human life against mass murder which I would call justified interfearance

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I don't see how giving them help can be seen as negative aid.

simple all aid is taken by their goverments 80% of the food/cash you donate never sees the people it is intended to reach


On history I know more about history of Forgien nations then many of my peers thats mainly cause I like military history and specialize in the WW2-Cold War period (so much to learn in just one period) I also love to learn about the Roman Empire and as any one who has read the "greatest conquer thread" my man Ghengis Khan. Ireland/Scotland in general and The American Civil War (I prefer the War Between the States cause there's nothin civil bout civil war) is another of my favorite subjects. Then again I'm pretty much an anomly when it come to history just about 99% of my peers only give enough of a damn about history to pass the one required history class "US History" which as stated before we have coming out of our ears. I find this very sad because in the words of General Robert E. Lee "It is History that teaches us to hope"

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I think with adequate history classes being geographically isolated is ok

I think what you have to ask yourself in this case is, how many history classes _are_ adequate?

And, more importantly, does anyone who has the power to care enough to improve the quality of those classes?

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Well, you don't even get world history until middle school, but I think that's how it is everywhere.

My school doesn't teach Modern World History which is mostly European History anymore.

They decided instead to give us two years of American history. I've been learning American history since the time I could talk. Its part of the Massachusetts-pride. Although I do appreciate learning about it, I think sometimes enough is enough and that learning things that haven't been shoved down our throats for years might be more... educational?

most of my foreign nation knowledge comes from years of watching british television, especially the bbc, news is always world orientated. In school we were educated about the ancient world, egypt greece and rome especially, and then england through the industrial revolution and the world wars mainly.

most of what i know however comes from self education, reading books which usually focus on the british empire or turkish and middle eastern history as these are my areas of interest. also, do not underestimate the power of computer games! if anybodys played europa universalis you would be hard pressed to claim its not educational! ha.

travelling is also key, we do not have this problem but i hear America sees involving students in study abroard programs as vital to the development of Americas image as it can serve well to break down sterotypes. hm, however im currently on erasmus exchange in ankara and the americans here are not doing much to disperse my ideas of them being loud and annoying but is definatly changing my opinion on them being dumb (to some extent, one asked me if there was a war going on in cyprus!!)

Sphinx, I'd suggest reading about Israel and trying to look at the Israeli-Palestinian conflict from the perspective of Israel.

The only real history classes I've taken were Jordanian history (yawn...) and the history of Latin America. Incas, Aztecs... it was actually interesting. Some of the best lessons I've ever taken. I wish my school offered more history classes, I've been trying to read up on countries by myself online

i had education on world history from the age of 5 or 6 i believe, ancient egyptians i think

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What I'm trying to say is that because we are so geographically isolated I feel often our historical education regarding the "outside" world beyond our fifty states is often-times neglected.

Well, you don't even get world history until middle school, but I think that's how it is everywhere. I think with adequate history classes being geographically isolated is ok. I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on major historical concepts.

The only problem in my opinion is that there's no recent history is many of the history classes.

I strongly agree with your point, regarding the geographical isolation of the US.I think americans are beginning to realize more and more, that we live in a global village.

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"Yanks, don't know the difference between their ass or their elbows"

One of the realities of living in America is that you are geographically isolated from a HUGE part of the world.

In European history classes for example I imagine it is extremely hard to just get a history of your own country. All european countries are so close together geographically that it would be basically impossible to be unaffected by them through-out history. For that reason Latvia learns about Russia, etc. Whatever...

What I'm trying to say is that because we are so geographically isolated I feel often our historical education regarding the "outside" world beyond our fifty states is often-times neglected.

Also whether we want to realize it or not, we _do_ affect other people. Personally and globally.

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Ah! IB! I totally did that, I got the diploma! It was an great experience, hard work, but I learned a lot and it was better than AP. It is an excellent program.

And it's also un-American and un-Christian according to a Minnesota school board!

My school doesn't offer any IB courses, which bums me out. And we only have five or six AP classes (Calculus, physics, chemistry, English, music theory, and perhaps Spanish). So far I've taken four of those, and none of them taught me anything useful...except that I hate poetry and that force equals mass times acceleration. Big whoop.

-----"""Oooh cool, you do IB. That really is an amazing system and it totally prepares you for college. """---


Ah! IB! I totally did that, I got the diploma! It was an great experience, hard work, but I learned a lot and it was better than AP. It is an excellent program.