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Picture of Shinsin
Registered: March 11, 2006
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So if little Suzzy has sex with her boyfriend...the terrorists will win?


*grins* I don't see any other way it could happen... obviously Suzzy's the center of the universe.

I'm not trying to be insulting against those who are strongly against premarital sex, to them, Suzzy should be addressed, but the whole world shouldn't hear about it. It should be purely a family discussion.

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With regards to civil wars-they should be left with no interference.


Sometimes the countries need help. I'm repeating myself- apologies- but people in the countries- people living in refuge camps, are living with little food. Their government may or may not be providing them with resources. I don't see how giving them help can be seen as negative aid.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
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We *SHOULD* care about our own families.


We should through universal health care and higher education quality. But the fact is you can't really legislate culture (which is what I think you are suggesting). It just doesn't work. I hate to say it, but that explains the reaction of so many states against gay marriage.


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the real problem is that there are too many people out there who just can't leave other people alone.


As seen in the "crusades' against homosexuality and abortion.


They'll like us when we win - Toby Ziegler.
Picture of Lucpol
Registered: March 06, 2006
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Yet despite their isolation/ignorance policy, they have done pretty well for themselves!With regards to civil wars-they should be left with no interference.Im sure we all saw what happened in Somalia, Bosnia when the International Communnity interfered??!!!But that attitude is slowly changing now (Americans becoming more 'aware'! Smile)....let's hope that new approach will prevail Wink
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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So if little Suzzy has sex with her boyfriend...the terrorists will win?


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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Registered: October 22, 2002
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My major problem with Americans is that we care more about if "little Suzzy had sex with her boyfriend" then if there's a civil war happening in Africa.


We *SHOULD* care about our own families. When we start neglecting our families and our business that up, our society goes to downhill, fast. Q.E.D. The problem is that the rest of thw world is too busy sticking its nose into everyone else's business. Frankly, I don't give a shit if there's a civil war in Africa ... I didn't start it, I'm probably not going to end it, and I'm pretty sure the people fighting don't give a rat's ass what I say, so why the f**k should I care?

The REAL problem is exactly the opposite of your theory; the real problem is that there are too many people out there who just can't leave other people alone. They just ***HAVE TO F*** WITH OTHER PEOPLE!*** That's why there's terrorism, oppression, and war. That's why we have to open a can of whoop-ass on all these little Napoleons who think their hot-sh** and who gas their citizens or start wars with their neighbors.

Maybe, someday, the Iranians and the British and the Chinese will learn to mind their own damn business rather than sticking their noses into ours. Until then, stock up on cans of whoop-ass.


Liberals prefer equality - all people should be equally poor, unsafe and badly-educated.
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Registered: March 12, 2006
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I agree with riskbreaker86's original comments that americans are totally and completely clueless about countries and happenings outside of their own borders!! Born in Nebraska, grewup there and in Denver, CO., spent 20-years with the USN, travelled the globe 2.5 times, did my tour in Vietnam (pointless conflict) and I know first-hand that americans, as a whole, are conceited/self-centered and extremely obnoxious when they visit foreign countries.
I even did a stint as a recruiter back in the 1970's, and some of the high-school grads and college students I encounterd couldn't even read an analog clock? What time is a quarter past three? duh....
Yes riskbreaker86, you hit the "nail on the head".
Ok, I'll sit back and see what reactions I get from this post.
cheers...
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Registered: March 11, 2006
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See that's the thing- there are other ways that we can care about other peoples problems without declaring war. I agree- bombing people is not the answer to all problems, and I'd be retarded if I thought that way.

What about sending food or medical supplies? Would that get us killed?
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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that's the thing it's not immense to us, it's not our freakin problem the last few times we've given a damn about other people's issues it's gotten us killed


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: March 11, 2006
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First of all- who said that I wanted the Americans to get get blown up in Africa?
I didn't even mention sending troops. I meant that the majority of the people in America aren't even aware of the immensity of the problems in places other than the US.

Why should we care? Maybe because civilians are dying... but you know- that could just be me.
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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why should we care if the africans have an issue and they want to fight it out? why? we've cared, in vietnam and korea. in somalia and the shithole the looks kinda alike the remaints of yougoslavia and what the hell did it get us? more people who hate us and a bunch of our boys dead so from now on we should just give the wolrd the bird you people care so much? you go die, have a nice freakin day


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: March 11, 2006
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My major problem with Americans is that we care more about if "little Suzzy had sex with her boyfriend" then if there's a civil war happening in Africa.

That's just pathetic.
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Registered: February 05, 2006
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let's put it this way...when it comes to general education, American's aren't the smartest and brightest. Well, let me rephrase that....when it comes to any type of education concerning anyone other then themselves, American's don't know jack.

Now a lot of you folks are quick to deny the fact that you only care about yourself, but what is the real truth? We live in an individualistic culture and sorry to say, that becomes apparent in our education. I'll admit some of us are fortunate to see more than our mind can comprehend, but for the majority...welcome to the club.
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Registered: March 06, 2006
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Indeed riskbreaker86.But if that is the way to protect the national interest, then why not????Afterall that is how they became a superpower!
Smile(I predict rich posts between the two of us my friend) Wink
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Registered: April 24, 2005
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aggressive realism at that, not forgetting neo liberalism, religious conservatism and so on.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
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Registered: March 06, 2006
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The answer is simple.Americans are realists!They devote themselves to their own country's security, preservation and progress. Preperation and taking part in conflict of course plays a part as well.Realism in action....
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Registered: April 24, 2005
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In Jordan we have IB, IGCSE, GCSE


you have GCSEs in Jordan? I wasnt aware of that, did you take them or know anybody that did? I hear the education is good in Jordan, Queen Rania was here in turkey only this week promoting education at a young age, which makes me wonder what time do americans start education? in the UK we start at 4 but here in Turkey at 7.


'it's better to have your ministers inside the tent pissing out than outside, pissing in'
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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very true look at russia, some of the greatest minds ever and at the same time communists


"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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Registered: January 15, 2006
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Originally posted by hubbabaloo:
Junior High, you're homeschooled. No questions asked. High School, you go to International Baccalaureate (big long, unspellable word of French origin...anyways). That's a highschool diploma that's run off International Standards.


Oooh cool, you do IB. That really is an amazing system and it totally prepares you for college. In Jordan we have IB, IGCSE, GCSE (those two are British) and the Jordanian system where basically you memorize the textbook and you'll excel. Most of the people who study the international systems actually leave Jordan to continue their education though, so it's not really benefitting the country, lol.
I can't pass judgement on the American education system but I do know that some of the smartest people I know are American and so are some of the dumbest; it's not a racial thing, it's just the individual person. With a country as big as the US, you're bound to get stuck with a bunch of morons. *shrug*


~*The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds; and the pessimist fears this is true.
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Registered: August 20, 2003
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Also what our system does is applies more pressure to older students about material that built upon what they were never tested on (nor sufficiently learned) in earlier grades, especially in math.

And that could possibly be a reason why high schoolers have the need to memorize formulas, etc. because they didn't get the skills to logically question the material and apply it to real-life examples when they should have had the opportunity to learn it.

It REALLY screws kids over.


The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mystical. It is the source of all true art and science. --Albert Einstein
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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but the American Education system is stupid.


You've got that right. The way I see it, school in the United States is less about learning the material and being able to apply it in the real world, and more about memorizing the stuff well enough to get a good grade on a test or in the class, and then forgetting it all later to make room for more pointless semi-applied content.

That's exactly how my AP Physics class is. All I've really learned over one and a half semesters is that force=mass x acceleration. Whoop-de-friggin'-do.


The more you know, the less you don't know.
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