yea please

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pie, please...next question...please??? please?? please??? please??? please?? please??? please??? please?? please??? please???

( i already said 14 pleases, please, haha )

gemini

I have never been quoted by you, I believe. I am a bit scare now.

But yes, I never did call you a Christian.

I haven't said you didn't look hard enough for proof.

I ask you all those questions not because I knew the answers to any of them. I asked you all those questions because you and I both don't know the answers to them.

But never mind, I don't think you got my point and I'm not sure if you will get it now. It doesn't matter anymore any ways. I'm sorry for getting into this converstion. I'm not even in a religion and I was in 7 different religions before now so who am I to talk?

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Ahh, I love when the topic of the thread completely disappears and I become the subject, heh. Disclaimer: I'm not in the most tolerant of moods, so please excuse the severity in the post I'm about to type.

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I mean is it right to call someone's religion a Fairly Tale?

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Is it right to assume that every other religion, or non-religion, is wrong because a certain individual deems it so? I am entitled to my own beliefs, and everyone else is to theirs. I think I've already stated that. It's not right to exclude homosexuals from a church? Is it right to belittle others for their contrasting beliefs? I get told to go to Hell all of the time, yet I obviously don't take it in a serious manner because I don't believe there IS a Hell. And people continually tell me that I am wrong for not believing in <insert some religious prophet/god here>, yet if I say that I believe all religion is false, I'm the one who should be reprimanded? Hmm.

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How do you know what it says in the Bible never happened?

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I've already stated why, but I'll be more than happy to say it again: there are no first-hand accounts from people verifying that something like the sea-parting happened, there are no photographs (I seriously hope you knew that already, heh), etc. Until I have proof, I won't waste my time and energy believing in myths.

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How do you know there isn't a God

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How do you know there is? And no spouting "because it's in the bible" BS, please.

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Because there's no real proof of it, well how do you know that your just not looking hard enough for the proof and the proof is right there?

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I haven't looked hard enough, eh? Then you find proof verifying that ANY religion is worth the effort of following. The proof -isn't- "right there" because it doesn't exist.

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It's the religion that makes you feel right inside.

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Yes, and numerous times before I've stated that religion can be a GOOD thing because it provides hope for people who need it most. But individuals such as myself know that it's completely myth. For instance, parents tell their children that Santa is a real person who flys around the world on Christmas giving little children presents. It's not true, but most children believe it. Why? Because it makes them feel "good" and happier. Same thing goes for religion. It's just sad that adults still believe in this myth. But I -still- respect their rights to believe in what they wish.

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what I have been reading from you, you just stating your opinions is in a way that you think your right and everyone else is wrong.

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NEVER call me a Christian ever again. Thank you.

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Please don't be mad at me, please, I'm just saying but I probably am wrong any ways.

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I have no reason to be angry with you. You have every right to say what you feel, and I respect your opinions, even if they're different from me.

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Gemini, you are saying you need "proof" to believe something. Well can you proove that there is no proof? Please proove that to me.

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How many times must I say this? I believe in nothing. That is, to say, that there is nothing to prove because no god exist, according to me. It's like trying to prove that unicorns don't exist, but you don't have proof of it, yet you know that they don't exist. Sure, there's a possibility that your god exists, but until you can prove that some supernatural power created the earth in six 24 hour days, put fossils in the ground to befuddle ignorant humans, created two human beings in which the entire population sprang from, created women to submit graciously to men, etc., then I'll still keep my standing on this matter.

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...if you don't follow Jesus and have Him as your personal savior, you'll go to Hell.

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Keep the bible-spouting BS coming. If you don't submit to Vishnu, then you'll be reincarnated into an ant. And if you don't become a martyr for your god, your family is going to suffer, etc. Pft.

That, and the Jews rejected Jesus, and thus God gave the Gentiles hope through salvation of the rejected Messiah.

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As far as I'm concerned, Christianity is just another branch of Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, so why can't the two religions be tolerant? They believe in the same God, same principles, whats the difference?

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Jesus was born Jew... there is a difference between the Jewish religion, and the jewish race. Christianity has it's origins in Judaism, which is true, but chritians believe that Jesus is the messiah, which jews are still waiting for. Christians believe that Jesus died so that we are not bound to the old law (which Jews still follow). Christians believe it's the faith in Jesus Christ that gets you to heaven, not just following a strict set of rules which jews follow.... there is quite a huge difference. That's a brief overview, i'm not in the mood to write a novel, but if you want more info, feel free to ask.

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the bible?( i don't know.... )

As far as I'm concerned, Christianity is just another branch of Judaism. Jesus was Jewish, so why can't the two religions be tolerant? They believe in the same God, same principles, whats the difference?

There's only one True religious faith.

It drives people insane when I say that, but it's True.

Jesus Christ is the only True God; and until you people realize that, you will never know true Peace.

as usual, i totally agree with Teddy's post.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just we should try to make sure that everyone knows that it is nothing but an opinion and not fact.

What about other religions? I am Jewish, but I respect all other religions. I also think there is truth in all of them. I just choose to follow Judaism.

Well, Gemini is entitled to her own views, and quite frankly, I'm not at all offended by what she said; sure, I hope and pray that one day she'll open her heart and find God, but she's got her views, I've got mine.

As far as "offending" someone, this is crap; it goes with the territory; if you don't follow Jesus and have Him as your personal savior, you'll go to Hell.

It's as simple as that.

Gemini, you are saying you need "proof" to believe something. Well can you proove that there is no proof? Please proove that to me.

I agree with Gemini.

Please don't be upset:

But they do have a small point there not Joey but prettyinpunk, well I think so at least.

I mean is it right to call someone's religion a Fairly Tale? Well, I don't know if you called someone's religion or the Bible a Fairly Tale. But, is that right. To Me: It's like saying your going to Hell for being an Atheist. You probably don't like it when someone say your going to Hell so that's probably how they feel when you called their beliefs a Fairy Tale.

How do you know what it says in the Bible never happened? How do you know it's all a Fairy Tale? How do you know there isn't a God. Because there's no real proof of it, well how do you know that your just not looking hard enough for the proof and the proof is right there?


To Me: No one knows the answers to those questions. People believe what makes them feel right. To Me: No one religion is wrong nor right, because no one is wise enough to know the real true answer to this all. To Me: It's the religion that makes you feel right inside.

Your are entitle to your opinions but To Me: what I have been reading from you, you just stating your opinions is in a way that you think your right and everyone else is wrong.

Maybe I'm overacting but To me: your kind of acting like Joey when it comes to this stuff but you do the opposite of what he does and you are actually more understanding than him.

Please don't be mad at me, please, I'm just saying but I probably am wrong any ways.

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Uhm, first of all I agree Gemini is allowed to state her belief, although maybe to avoid offending others she could say 'that is because in my opinion it never happened'. But freedom of speech wins the day, and Christians tell others they're wrong in their beliefs all the time.

Why not God? Too many things in the bible I don't believe and don't want to believe, I wasn't brought up to be religious, too much bad stuff happens (if there is a God, he's not very sympathetic, or he plays favourites), and err, how can I put this? I - just - don't believe in Him. I have no sense of God's presence in my life or anyone else's. I think people believe in God because they are afraid to be alone.

That's just my belief. I am not pretending to have the answers here. In fact I've not devoted much of my time thinking about what I really believe. I believe in the soul going on after death in some way, but not in a creator overseeing it all, and not in heaven or hell. That's about as far as I've got in my thinking. I think I'm something of an agnostic, rather than an athiest, because I can't know for sure that God doesn't exist. It's like I'm waiting for a faith to turn up that fits what I believe (because Christianity certainly doesn't). But picking and choosing like that and just believing what I want to feels like cheating, so I'm faithless… in any case I have too little conviction in my convictions (if that makes sense) to ever be zealously religious, or to have a solid belief in any faith. I am the type of person who would question all the time. I am the type of person who would need evidence to truly believe, because right now I do not see God in anything. Does that make me sinful, or just too logical for my own good?

'Because the bible says so' is just not good enough for me.

Bex

Well, Pie didn't answer my questiom from that homosexuality thread but that's my fault I didn't put Pie or anything, I just asked. So may I ask now?

Well, this goes for everyone who think homosexua;ity is wrong:

Is there is any reasons why Homosexuality is wrong other than it say so in the Bible?

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pie, next question please!

I love gemini when she's like this.