Question:
Did you know that 40% of population in N.Korea is dieing from poverty? Think about this... 40%!!!!
It's nine million people. And some people are eaten by neighbor!!!!
Should we help them or they are just "axis of evil" as cutie bush said?


Choices:
we should help!! before the naiton,religion,color,race,politic,economy,etc. we are same human beings!

 

"i do not feel sorry for her" - Sista

It is sad you do not feel sorry for someone who has been diagnosed wirh cancer. Only an awful human being would not feel sorry for someone. But since I am bastion of guidance for this immature site I am going to instruct you to create a new topic so we can discuss you blatent cruel-hearted attitude towards humanity.

by the way, i do not feel sorry for her, so don't say that you care

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This is a debate page about N. Korea. We all feel sorry for Nsyncgirl, but please keep your posts related to the tittle.

they are all better off that nsyncgirl

Ignore my last two posts.

North Korea was called part of the Axis of Evil once. Once, you morons. It was in the hours following 9-11 and Bush has said nothing like that since.

Bushsupporter is right, we give N. Korea food and their military takes it. Thus, unless we are prepared to take military action to ensure people get there food, wich I think we should do, let them starve to death. Their death wont be on our hands.

"No one should be scared of our defense except our attakers." Well Bushsupporter, maybe if countries have innocent civilains ridding their missles like horses, they should be scared of our missle defense. Some morons on this site seems to be plagued with a lack of information.

And Bushsupporter, if MacArthur was allowed to fight the war the way he wanted, we would have a lot less problems today, am I right?

North Korea was called part of the Axis of Evil once. Once, you morons. It was in the hours following 9-11 and Bush has said nothing like that since.

Bushsupporter is right, we give N. Korea food and their military takes it.

here are two sensable people from what i can tell!:

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wonderousbob
Posts: 154
don't you get it? you know WHY they are starving? BECAUSE OF THIER STUPID GOVERNMENT!!! if we invaded, we would be liberating them.
Bushsupporter

Posts: 249
The term "country" reffers to the government. I don't have the time or the resources to list every name of every person in the country and theier allegiances. I have to refer to the country as a whole.

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please other people!! stick to the facts. below is a new survay that is factual.

don't you get it? you know WHY they are starving? BECAUSE OF THIER STUPID GOVERNMENT!!! if we invaded, we would be liberating them.

The term "country" reffers to the government. I don't have the time or the resources to list every name of every person in the country and theier allegiances. I have to refer to the country as a whole.

I think that people may be misunderstanding the situation as a whole. You see, when the red cross or the UN give food to the "people" Kim Jong Il takes it and feeds his army. This is why we don't give them aid because it actually gives the tyrant aid.

Also, as much as people say it, not all the people hate the government but are too scared to stand up. He does have support and a lot of it. The people of N. Korea have been living like that for a long time: a hundred or so years. I would like to use a anecdote from the former soviet union. A group of film makers went to a small farm and gave a woman a cow. They explained that it was HERS and she could do whatever she wanted with it. She wanted to know when to give it back and they said she didn't have to. She could milk it forever and keep it to herself and not give it to anyone and she wanted to know when to take the milk to the town center. She couldn't grasp the concept that it was hers. She had lived so long in a world without possesion that she thought that was right. She didn't know that there was a better system out there. Same thing in N. Korea. They don't know any better, that is why they follow him. Not fear but ignorance.

Finally, I never said that they would be better off living under the American Government (although they would be). I do feel that they would be better off living under Democracy and Freedom and a constitutional government. We should have freed them from the shackles of tyranny when we had the chance.

By the way ABM's cannot be used for offensive attacks. they are defensive missles. No one should be scared of our defense except our attakers.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

Flowergirl, I hate the "axis-of-evil" term too.

I just think its really stupid that a country is called part of an "Axis of Evil." Right, just because a country's leader is unjust and crazy, we call the whole country "evil." what do they mean by evil anyway?

40% of the population is dying from poverty? But still their government only seems to care about their nukes don't they.

All the money they're spending on neuclear weapons and such should be given to their poor starving nation.

They wouln't be on such an "axis of evil" if they'd just deal with the people of their country, before even debating accepting a war declaration. But stll, that war is on hold anyhow.

Yeah, I guess we could help. But in some twisted way or another, those people we feed, will probably end up in their country's army, fighting against us, if they decide to go to war in future. And to think you aided them, now who's on the axis of evil??

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Hey Bex: Yes, unfortunately, there are millions going hungry in America at this very moment. It's not a pleasant thing, but it's true. Consider this:

• 13 million children live in households that do not have an adequate supply of food.
  
  
• Between 2000 and 2001, requests for emergency food assistance increased by an average of 23% in American cities, with 54% of requests coming from families with children.
  
  
• More than 23 million low-income people received emergency food assistance through the America's Second Harvest Network in 2001, including 9 million children (39% of all recipients and 1 in 10 children in America).
  

Data courtesy of Hunger Free America

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If we would have been allowed to push past the 38th parralel 50 years ago maybe they wouldn't be starving in N. Korea. Yet another military mistake made by the feel good liberals.

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Bushsupporter:
So you think the Koreans would be better off being ruled by the Americans?
I'm not saying they definitely wouldn't, but don't go preaching the goodness of military conquest! I personally doubt Koreans would feel themselves well off having been ruled by America for 50 years. It's precisely the arrogance you have displayed that creates anti-American feeling. I mean, sure, the Koreans are in a bad situation; but there are plenty of other communist governments that manage ok. Communism does tend towards extremism, which is when it goes wrong, but that doesn't mean people should be forced to live the American way. Take Vietnam as an example.

As to the issue of whether America should aid the Korean people, i don't really know enough about it. I don't think they should be excluded from any aid normally provided in these situations just because of the way the country is run. I guess i think they should be treated no differently to any other people in need.

It's one of the injustices of the way we live that in a world of surplus millions of people are starving. I don't know enough about the situation in North Korea to agree or disagree with what people are saying here, but I wouldn't be quite so holier-than-thou about weapons, God knows the US spends enough on them.

I agree with what you're saying about taking care of your own problems first, but maybe I missed something. Who's starving in America? You produce 75% of the world's wheat and you're famous for your food. Is there a situation I don't know about because if people are starving in America I didn't hear about it.

Bex

Unfourtunatley the percentage is higher according to UN: around 55-60%. Makes the bread lines in the USSR look like a walk in the park now doesn't it. The fact of the matter is: Communists use food as a weapon they have plenty of money but they dont feed thier people because they can use it as an incentive to follow without question. All tyrants do that. Same thing happened in Somalia in the early 90's. Another Point, Anyone seen the infamous picture of N. Korea at night? The rebellion against technology was not left only to artist but communists as well. Ever read the book Anthem by Ayn Rand. Same thing happened in that book. The society got rid of all technology and used candles for light for goodness sakes. Karl Marx sanction this secorship of technology in his Communist Manifesto. This is why they are starving. Not because of the World Savior: the US. But because of the commies that run the place. If we would have been allowed to push past the 38th parralel 50 years ago maybe they wouldn't be starving in N. Korea. Yet another military mistake made by the feel good liberals. But thats a story for another post.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

Maybe they should spend there money on lets say FOOD and not nukes! This is a stupid question. We have enough people in the U.S. that have the same problem so what about our country?

your poll gives us so much choice!(NOT)
The whole reason N korea is part of the axis of evil is BECAUSE the government spends all its money on nukes and lets its people starve. nobody called the starving N korean peasants " Evil". It's their government thats part of the axis, not them. Just because Jews lived in Germany during WW2 didn't mean they were part of the axis powers. you clearly don't realize that just mabey the general populace hates thier Totalitarian Government even more than we do.