I'll burn you. Amend that.

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Originally posted by benje309:
then some of you might appreate the American flag more.

Ya got that right! They also might appreciate it more!

This quote explains what I think. It's from the movie "The American President".

"You want to claim this land as the 'land of the free'? Then the symbol of your country cannot just be a flag. The symbol also has to be one of its citizens exercising his right to burn that flag in protest. Now show me that, defend that, celebrate that in your classrooms. Then you can stand up and sing about the 'land of the free.'"

IT is just a material, like the constitution. If there was only one in the world I could see not burningit, but we have copies, people make money off of it. So lets drag it, burn it, pee on it.

Its your property.

The idea of what it stands for is still there but in reality it is jsut a peice of cloth that has been so over used it has no respect.

Go to Washington, D.C. and see the Stared Spangled Banner in the Smithsonian...then some of you might appreate the American flag more.

no, it's just a flag. i can understand how it would describe hatred toward america, but its only a flag. if people in the US do it, they still have to live here whether they like America or not.

NO because people should be allowed to voice thier opinons. IF they do so, it will contractict the first.

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a threat that not only threatens the well-being of the Middle East, but threatens life as we know it around the world.

you really think the middle east, and its terrorist groups, who are fighting to rid the occupiers of the east threaten life as we know it round the world? they want you gone, you really think if america hadnt gone to iraq and the middle east the region could have been a major threat to world security? i think not, fundamentalism isn't dangerous if you don't stand in its way.

fair enough, you want to liberate people, but i dont think the American government cares about those people...Bush doesnt even care about his own people.

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Originally posted by reactionary05:

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Originally posted by northstar316:
a rebel flag reactionary? charming

Thought you'd like it.

It makes me wish for the day the south will sink to the bottom of the sea where it belongs.

-----"""It was a flag emblazoned with the eye of Saruman. I burned it alongside a group of other Lord of the Rings enthusiasts after I saw the midnight showing of Return of the King."""---

Hah, that's...out there. You should have stood up, done it in the theater while the movie was playing and stated screaming "Death to the Servants of the all-seeing eye!" and waving the flaming cloth around, that would have been hilarious to see.

I love to burn American flags...especially ones made out of hemp.

Also, ironically, in many of the news clips you've seen of arabs burning American flags, they're actually doing it because the flag had touched the ground and they wanted to do the honorable thing.

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why dont you leave the middle east then? Osama's mission plan is to rid the infidel from Saudi Arabia and the greater region. But oh, your saving the people, promoting freedom? no, if it wasnt for terrorism you wouldnt have invaded Afghanistan or Iraq, so...why not clear out of the middle east?

Simply because a task is daunting is not a reason to avoid achieving and overcoming it. Hope is what keeps the Iraqis alive. Hope that the bloodshed now will end in a Democratic Iraq and a free people.
Dr.Srangelove put it succinctly. WE are fighting Middle Eastern fascism; a threat that not only threatens the well-being of the Middle East, but threatens life as we know it around the world.

Those radicals do not want to make just Iraq an Islamic nation. There is more at stake than just Iraq. Iraq is only a mere battlefront in ther aspirations of an all Islamic World; which threatens everyone.

There is more to this "War on Terror" than just Iraq and Afghanistan. This problem will not go away because there are democracies within the middle east.
We will have to rid Iran, Syria, and Saudi Arabia first and formeost of radicalism, yes, but simply neutralizing the "sugar daddies of terror" is not going to stop this ideology of hate. There has to be an effort ont he part of the Islamic peoples to shun such practices as what the majority of the Sha'rian law preaches. If we have a conerted effort from the Muslim people to stop the radicalization and the indoctrination of radical Islam, we will be much farther along in achieving a victorious end in the "War on Terror" than we would be with simply a democratic iraq and Afghanistan.

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Terrorism, in a sense, has been around for millenia stretching as far as I can remember to the Assyrian Empire. Terrorism will never cease. But radical Islam can be dismantled, if we unite as a common force to fight this evil.

why dont you leave the middle east then? Osama's mission plan is to rid the infidel from Saudi Arabia and the greater region. But oh, your saving the people, promoting freedom? no, if it wasnt for terrorism you wouldnt have invaded Afghanistan or Iraq, so...why not clear out of the middle east?

Heh. I burned one at a Halloween party in Ireland a couple of years ago. Lots of fun.

I burned a flag once.

It was a flag emblazoned with the eye of Saruman. I burned it alongside a group of other Lord of the Rings enthusiasts after I saw the midnight showing of Return of the King.

It was great fun.

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Originally posted by northstar316:
a rebel flag reactionary? charming

Thought you'd like it.

I found this noteowrhty:

In a recent interview, General Norman Schwartzkopf was asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward the people who have harbored and abetted the terrorists who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks on America.

His answer was classic Schwartzkopf. The General said, "I believe that forgiving them is God's function. OUR job is to arrange the meeting."

Terrorism, in a sense, has been around for millenia stretching as far as I can remember to the Assyrian Empire. Terrorism will never cease. But radical Islam can be dismantled, if we unite as a common force to fight this evil.

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The sickle and hammer represents the pinnacle of corruption, wherever its used.

Ahem. And who was attempting to bring back the Bellamy salute, symbol of evil that it is?

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A peaceful ideal? Marxism is nothing more than class war.

No it's not, it's just extremely unrealistic and therefore unable to work in society because we are all selfish a-holes.

Terrorism, communism, etc are all ideals. How you apply them is what counts.

And because of what red said, Islamoviolentfascists will always exist. It's like a virus, you always have it, but only sometimes the actual symptoms show.

a rebel flag reactionary? charming