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Because they're the sworn enemy of the West. I'd rather be fightin' reds than Islamo-fascists.

But so are the Islamofascists. The thing is, Islamofascists are a hell of alot more dangerous considering they are willing to kill themselves in order to accomplish their mission. They are more dabngerous because they are wordlwide and the have the support of many different countries in many different parts of the world.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
the sickle and hammer represents hard work,

Haha, and I'm a chinese jet pilot. The sickle and hammer represents the pinnacle of corruption, wherever its used.

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it is the same ethic that was derived from protestantism and brought about the spirit of capitalism....what America is founded on.

America was founded on the same spirit as communism? I do not know what could be further from the truth.

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Although communism has bad press,

Same with the Nazis, right?

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it is an ideal,

No recognition for my work is not my idea of ideal.

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a yardstick...

For genocide.

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that in theory works fine,

They always do.

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it is a peaceful ideal,

A peaceful ideal? Marxism is nothing more than class war.

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yet in practice is horribly flawed,

First true statement so far.

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i dont see why so much hatred is directed to 'commies',

Because they're the sworn enemy of the West. I'd rather be fightin' reds than Islamo-fascists.

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those that want equality?

Do you think that your equality and your rights are important to the Politburo chiefs and KGB Colonels?

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i disagree with the government of the USSR,

So does everyone else commie sympathizer I've met. Its a nice way to seperate yourself from Stalinism.

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of North Korea and so on, but people cannot be blamed for wanting equality.

They want power, not equality. They'll hang the great temptress of "equality" over worker's heads, and once they bite, there's no velvet glove, just an iron fist.

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i dont see why so much hatred is directed to 'commies', those that want equality? i disagree with the government of the USSR, of North Korea and so on, but people cannot be blamed for wanting equality.

Because equality means nothing if everyone lives ambitionless and mediocre lives. Communism is the sacrifice of individual freedoms to facilitate and unnatural state of equality.

America was based on the equality of rights and oppurtunities, so that those with drive and ambition may succeed and enrich the nation as a whole. Communism promises total equality no matter the work ethic, and thus promotes mediocrity and the presevation of the status quo. It's obviously more complex than that, but that is, in a nutshell, why I abhor Communism.

the sickle and hammer represents hard work, it is the same ethic that was derived from protestantism and brought about the spirit of capitalism....what America is founded on.

Although communism has bad press, it is an ideal, a yardstick...that in theory works fine, it is a peaceful ideal, yet in practice is horribly flawed, i dont see why so much hatred is directed to 'commies', those that want equality? i disagree with the government of the USSR, of North Korea and so on, but people cannot be blamed for wanting equality.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
The free markets post WW1 led to defensive inwards investment,

No, lack of enforcement of the Treaty led to that. Remember the Rhineland? Coulda stopped Hitler right there.

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and economic fear that such an unstable system brought made it easy for radical governments to come to power, as in Germany..

No, the Weimer Republic made it possible for the National Socialist German Worker's Party to come to power (with only 30% of the vote).

Nation building after World War II (which took upwards of 10 years) was a success because of the infusion of the Marshall Plan (which bailed out Europe) and free markets (which helped strengthen the economies).

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And then there is the UN, which assumes national soverignty to be overiding yet through its workings can justify armed intervention in other nations...

The UN will justify anything if it will line their pockets with blood money.

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and we all know that the institution of UN does not produce multilateralism,

It did in the beginning, when the West was in control.

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but gives the US a greater need for unilateralism when pursuing imperial adventures..

Haha. Imperial Adventures? You can instantly tell America is imperialist; I mean just look at all of the land we got from World War II, Greece, Korea, Vietnam, Latin America, Iraq, Bosnia, and Afghanistan. Hell, we lost land after WWII.

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isolating themselfes from much international support,

It will be a dark day for freedom when America bows to the international community.

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perhaps why flag burning occurs?

Perhaps the burning of the American flag occurs is because those burning it were wrapping themselves in the Sickle and Hammer Blood Banner little more than a decade ago.

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Free Markets rebuilt Europe. Too bad they got rid of 'em.

The free markets post WW1 led to defensive inwards investment, and economic fear that such an unstable system brought made it easy for radical governments to come to power, as in Germany..After WW2 the classical liberalist world had failed, and then came Bretton Woods, institutionalising liberalism, and turning it into a huge hypocracy....with statistics to show World Bank and the IMF actually go against globalisation and produce a wider gap between north and south. And then there is the UN, which assumes national soverignty to be overiding yet through its workings can justify armed intervention in other nations...and we all know that the institution of UN does not produce multilateralism, but gives the US a greater need for unilateralism when pursuing imperial adventures..isolating themselfes from much international support, and public support....perhaps why flag burning occurs?

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Originally posted by kat3020:
what's wrong with burnig the flag?

What's right with it?

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it's just protest what r they iilgal now too?

Protests can be held effectively without disgracing the symbol of the nation that gives you the right to protest.

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next thing you know it'll be illegal to not say the pledge of alligence.

This, ladies and gentlemen, is what the American public education system is producing.

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the flag represented what our founding fathers wanted their country to be like not what it is today.

You speak for the Founding Fathers? Do you think that they would like you burning the flag they pledged their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor for?

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what happened to freedom of expression?

What about arson? Isn't arson considered expression?

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by burning the flag i'd be expressing my anger,

And we'll express our anger by throwing you in jail. How much do they tolerate dissent in socialist paradises like Cooooba?

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my disappointment in this once great country.

Your biggest disappointment came about in '91.

what's wrong with burnig the flag?it's just protest what r they iilgal now too?next thing you know it'll be illegal to not say the pledge of alligence.the flag represented what our founding fathers wanted their country to be like not what it is today.what happened to freedom of expression? by burning the flag i'd be expressing my anger,my disappointment in this once great country.

But, riskbreaker, had America invaded Japan, I rest assured knowing that the United Kingdom would have fought by our side. Just like today, wherever there's a war against evil, you can find America and Britian on the front lines.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
actually the Japanese surrendered as a reasult of the Russian threat to join the war

Russia was already in the war, they invaded Korea in August 1945.

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...Briatin didnt want to be involved, although we had a lot to do with the re-building, which i would like to say is the greatest achievment of America, the nation building of Japan and Germany post ww2.

Free Markets rebuilt Europe. Too bad they got rid of 'em.

Did we not have ground battles with the Japanese? Is tha not hwat the movie Windtalkers was suposed to portray?

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Were you jumpin' at the bit to fight those crazies?

actually the Japanese surrendered as a reasult of the Russian threat to join the war...Briatin didnt want to be involved, although we had a lot to do with the re-building, which i would like to say is the greatest achievment of America, the nation building of Japan and Germany post ww2.

Took a lot of lives too. But I suppose you have no compunctions about that, do you?

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
you were so scared of fighting the Japanese

Were you jumpin' at the bit to fight those crazies?

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you unleashed the nuclear bomb.

Saved alot of lives.

you were so scared of fighting the Japanese you unleashed the nuclear bomb.

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Originally posted by reactionary05:
Like when we slapped the Japs in the South Pacific?

That's incredibly insulting FYI. I know if I said that to a japanese friend of mine he'd injure me. Severely.

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Originally posted by riskbreaker86:
Not to take away from their courage or accomplishments, an army that underarmed managed to defeat the highly trained German army, with a bit of help from the adverse weather, which they had learned to fight well in...and the Americans know only too well also, what happens when you try to fight a couragous enemy in territory they know far better than you..

Like when we slapped the Japs in the South Pacific?

I would say the foot soldiers were brave, but the kind of brave that is required not earned. considering they died whether fighting the enemy or retreating, brave was all they could be.

Not to take away from their courage or accomplishments, an army that underarmed managed to defeat the highly trained German army, with a bit of help from the adverse weather, which they had learned to fight well in...and the Americans know only too well also, what happens when you try to fight a couragous enemy in territory they know far better than you..

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Originally posted by mac123:
The russions were incredibly brave fighters in WW2.

Incredibly brave. But we're not talking about the foot soldiers.

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Originally posted by clpo13:
Funny how our leaders back in WWII didn't have that common sense...

Actually they didn't. In that case, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. There was rarely a time when we did not clash with the Russians over strategy.

The russions were incredibly brave fighters in WW2.