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Registered: January 08, 2004
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i do think about inter-racial marriages? Razz
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BoundForGlory, do you have any historical examples in the last...say....6000 years of mixed-race breeding leading to the death of a culture?

While I agree with the point you are trying bring across, yet still I can predict BoundForGlory's answer. Undoubtedly he will bring up most major nations such as Rome as an example. Yes cross-cultural integration does bring about its problems, but is necessarily all the cultures fault? I beg to disagree because ultimately it is the people who make up the culture, who decide to put up the resistance and make the decision to fight.
Very simply boundforglory's system of beliefs are based on a system of idealism. He believes that isolationism is possible, while a pragmatic look at isolationism says quite the contrary. The thing I find very funny is people like him get mad at "liberals" for holding "ideals" of equality, yet at the same time he is guilty of the same actions. A pragmatic look at the idea of isolationism does not give promising results to the political/philosophical beliefs Boundforglory holds.
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BoundForGlory, do you have any historical examples in the last...say....6000 years of mixed-race breeding leading to the death of a culture?
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Those, who today control the media and affairs of the Western World, teach that this is wrong and shameful. They label it "racism." As any "ism," for instance the word "nationalism," means to promote one's own nation; "racism" merely means to promote and protect the life of one's own race. It is, perhaps, the proudest word in existence. Any man who disobeys these instincts is anti-Nature."


So.....I am anti-nature if I am not a racist, ignorant, bigot? You have it so wrong, nature tells me that people should not be separated by race and ristricted to marring ONLY the opposit sex from you own race, nature means to love whoever you want to love, regardless of race, religion, gender, whatever. Why would any decent person be proud to be a rasist? I don't beleive that disliking others of a different race and thinking your own race is superior to other races is something to be proud of. Oh well, I'm sure that there are enough racist, bigoting people like you in the world to prevent us from all turing into " strange, hybrid, sub-species".

dictionary.com definition of racism:

The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

a defintion for nationalism:

the conviction that the culture and interests of your nation are superior to those of any other nation
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yes Sivad, i would construe that as racism. I am not some strange hybrid sub-species. What the hell is your problem boundforglory? And I have no problem with being "accepted". And it is not sad being at a place where there are mixed children, and tons of diversity. I think you want a life back when there was segregation. Where there are certain schools and places for whites, and certain places for blacks. Well guess what, things are never gonna be that way again. So you claim not to be a racist, so then if you aren't, stop posting racist comments or statements. If you aren't racist then prove it, because i think all but 1 here think you are.
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I agree with djmagnusa and Sivad. As per usual.

Glory: You have no proof of your sources being genuine. Round and round we go.

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After reading your posts it has become abundantly clear you views are in direct unison with Aryan nation or the English version the BNP. Your continual use of the terms genetic "purity", genetic "integrity" are evidence enough for me.
The simple fact is that your pseudo-science does not hold up. The term race in a biological world is used to describe sub-species, a subgroup that is on the brink of "speciation." But very simply with humans there are no subspecies, which therefore on a biological level means race does not exist. But let us assume for a minute that race on a genetic level did exist. What would be the point of "preserving" the genetic "integrity," because the fitness of a species is determined by its variation. Very simply variation is what has continually pr oven to the best way to preserve a species.
Now I will not deny that on a cultural level that race does exist. But you will be very hard pressed to find any culture that was ever completely "pure" or "untainted".
Registered: January 08, 2004
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What about inter-nation marriage? If gay "marriage" becomes legal, we could have a problem with people immigrating other through marriage.
Registered: January 06, 2004
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personally i think inter-racial marraiges are fine. and if someone has a problem w/ it than tough because it's none of their business. if two people love and trust each other to the point where they feel they need to get hitched, then good for them, race shouldn't matter. and if someone is agaist inter-racial marraiges, then don't marry someone from another race. it's that simple.
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Agreed, to a point. Some people are naturally stronger, smarter, et cetera than their fellow human beings. However, just because you are smarter or stronger than someone does not mean your rights supercede theirs.

Right. I have no problem with equality in opportunity. Well, aside from a few particular instances like gay marriage. But from a racial perspective, equality in opportunity is only fair.

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Why? What's so sacred about genetics? Hertiage, culture, and tradition are all independent of genetics. There is more to genetics than visible racial features. Your parents and you have vastly different genetic structures.

Well, I just think it is important to preserve our inherent genetic integrity. Each and every race should be preserved. Why would you want only one hybrid species of human in the world? Diversity is a good thing, as long as it is regional diversity. Each race has created their own cultures, traditions, customs, etc. I think it's important to preserve these things. Without them, we have no sense identity and little ambition to continue to exist.

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No, it doesn't. See above. Oh, and I'm sure anyone with mixed blood in them will appreciate you calling them a, "strange, hybrid, sub-species."

No it doesn't? How can you say that? You would be the product of two completely different cultures and people. You will not be able to fully identify with one or the other. About the "strange, hybrid, sub-species" thing... This wasn't really relevant to my point. It was just a side note of my view on mixed people. lol I don't have a problem with them, but I feel sorry for some of them who are confused and unaccepted.

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I see more and more mixed kids every year.

I'm sorry to hear that.

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you can't stop people from marrying outside of their race, so why even try?

Of course I can. Many things can be changed by one thing; THE MEDIA. The opinion makers of America dictate the masses, the lemmings. Much of what you believe, many of your pre-conceived notions, are all a result of the American mass media. If the media constantly promoted racial nationalism, you would be a nationalist. But in reality, the media perpetually promotes miscegenation, homosexuality, pre-marital sex, drugs, etc. So, our society is becoming more sympathetic on issues like this. Everyone is conforming to the politically correct, "right" thing to do. The problem is that the self-righteous lemmings are unaware of the fact that they are being deliberately manipulated and systematically destroyed.

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BoundForGlory has been reading too much racist propaganda

Propaganda is omnipresent. What I read is no more of propaganda than CNN, CBS, NBC, or the New York Times. Everyone has an agenda of their own. The difference is that mine is genuine.

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wow he is uber ignorant of different lifestyles and is a racist pig.

Yes, looking out for the interests of my own people is certainly evil, and racist. I'm such a bigot. Look at this quote:

"...Those, who today control the media and affairs of the Western World, teach that this is wrong and shameful. They label it "racism." As any "ism," for instance the word "nationalism," means to promote one's own nation; "racism" merely means to promote and protect the life of one's own race. It is, perhaps, the proudest word in existence. Any man who disobeys these instincts is anti-Nature."
Registered: January 08, 2004
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i corrected myself on the second post.


Heh, I noticed immediately after I hit "Post Now." In any event, I used stronger language in my last paragraph than I should have because I was annoyed by Bound's slow but steady decline into gibbering, racist ramblings. No offense was intended.


-Sivad
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i corrected myself on the second post.
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I don't think BoundforGlory is racist. He presented his points very well. And he does have some valid points. Don't attack people for having different opinions.


Not racist? How can he not be racist and still spew incredible nonsense like, "Miscegenation leads to disintegration of all of these important things, not to mention a strange hybrid, sub-species." (Emphasis added)

Hey, lpfan289, you have mixed parents. According to BoundForGlory that makes you "a strange hybrid sub-species." Would you construe that as racism?

As for not attacking people with different opinions, well, christ, that's pretty much the whole point of a forum now, isn't it? Opinions aren't sacred. If someone has the right to have an opinion, I have the right to have the opinion that their opinion sucks.


-Sivad
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Oh dear..I just read some of BoundforGlory's other posts on the other boards..wow he is uber ignorant of different lifestyles and is a racist pig.
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I don't think BoundforGlory is racist. He presented his points very well. And he does have some valid points. Don't attack people for having different opinions.

By the way, I'm pro-interracial marriages.
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Often people with different cultures in their backgrounds find it quite enriching. And BoundForGlory has been reading too much racist propaganda… sub-species… man, you really are evil.

Inter-racial marriages are no big deal, in my opinion.

Bex Wink
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Registered: December 05, 2003
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"Miscegenation leads to disintegration of all of these important things, not to mention a strange hybrid, sub-species."

WTF?

Maybe that's called evolution... and anyway, you can't stop people from marrying outside of their race, so why even try?
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Registered: September 14, 2003
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Inter-racial relationships and marriges are definetly ok. My parents are different races. My dad is Mexican and my mom is black. And at school I see more and more mixed kids every year.
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Race is omnipresent. Equality is non-existent. This "we're all humans, everyone is equal" nonsense is very irrational.


Agreed, to a point. Some people are naturally stronger, smarter, et cetera than their fellow human beings. However, just because you are smarter or stronger than someone does not mean your rights supercede theirs.

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The genetic integrity of each and every distinct race should be preserved. Heritage, culture, and tradition; these are all things that must be preserved.


Why? What's so sacred about genetics? Hertiage, culture, and tradition are all independent of genetics. There is more to genetics than visible racial features. Your parents and you have vastly different genetic structures.

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Miscegenation leads to disintegration of all of these important things, not to mention a strange hybrid, sub-species.


No, it doesn't. See above. Oh, and I'm sure anyone with mixed blood in them will appreciate you calling them a, "strange, hybrid, sub-species."


-Sivad
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Registered: December 10, 2003
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If the two people love each other let them marry, I not a big deal, unless it comes down to the family and what they think, but then too, you have to live with that person...Not your family
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