Question:
Does anyone like George W. Bush?

Choices:
Yes
No
Who is George W. Bush?

 

If anybody is trying to kill children, it's the radical leftists in this country and abroad, you turn a blind eye to the atrocities committed by Hussein, bin Laden, etc. Some of these lunatics are far more critical of the U.S. than they are of these mass-murderers.
Thge best thing we can do is ship them out of the country...they don't deserve the fruits of our national defense.

quote:

---

These are more thing Christian parents are concerned about, Not necessarily conservative.
Also I think you meant to say evolutionism

---

No, these are factual Conservative arguments. Conservatives believe in an unregulated economy with some regulation on morality, thus meaning that (certain) religion and/OR Evolution should be taught in schools. (Aside: There are plenty of Conservatives who WANT evolution taught in schools along with religion because they believe that would be balanced and would teach morality, so my word choice was correct.)

quote:

---

It does seem to tell you "Say what you want" yet, it does also seem to say "But if you said this, that would be great"

---

No; the site's message is for people to promulgate their opinions. It's a FACT that innocent children are dying in Iraq, though the site does not imply that the War in Iraq is wrong. If you'll note, the site also mentions the Iraqis freedom, which would not be possible if there was no war at hand. It all depends on your interpretation.

quote:

---

They (conveniently) never blamed Saddam for the children he's killed for the past 20 years.

---

They don't coat him in sugar, either.

They could have choosen their words more fairly.

Korith, I believe you are going a little bit on a strech here.

quote:

---

This is obviously a parallel between Bush's policies and an attempt to say that he is, also trying to kill children.

Yet it saying nothing about having to live under a oppressive regime.

---

I disagree, if the site was flamboyantly leftist, they would have said Bush is trying to kill innocent children, like a lot of the radical war protestors did. Very simply civilian casualties are fact and cross-culturally the killing of innocent children is frowned upon. They are not saying that Bush has the intentions of killing children; rather they are saying children are going to die, regardless of his intentions.

quote:

---

Even worse than before. Yet, again trying to say the Bush's policies are hurting children, breaking up families and spreading fear.

---

Again this is another stretch. I believe you are reading a little too deeply into some of the stuff.

quote:

---

Another 'Bush is evil' type topics.

---

Very simply you are putting words in people’s mouths here. In this case it is fact that quite a few countries are no "pleased with America" and simply this is to open discussion on why it is so.


This rant coming up is not particularly aimed at you Korith but rather aimed at the right in general. I grow very tired of the rights continual *****ing and moaning about the "liberal" media and so on and so forth. They complain about the "liberal" slant in the media yet at the same time when any other organization, that some would deem as slanted towards the right, gets accused of being slanted, they immediately deny it and say it is objective news. The very nature of their argument is not objective; they want to move it towards their views, which therefore would make it not a movement for objectivity but rather a movement for subjectivity. This movement for subjectivity would then therefore be in direct contrast with the premise of their argument, of making the news objective.

quote:

---

"How can we stop Creationism from being taught in schools?" or "Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry! That's WRONG! Let's do something to stop this!

---

These are more thing Christian parents are concerned about, Not necessarily conservative.
Also I think you meant to say evolutionism

quote:

---

I think this site is seemingly balanced for the most part, because it's more moderate than radical.

---

It does seem to tell you "Say what you want" yet, it does also seem to say "But if you said this, that would be great"

quote:

---

Whatever the staff feels, many noiseboarders are very conservative. What's more, whether or not they are blaming Bush for the death of the children, some children died.

---

I said the site, not everyone here, and in anyway, most noisemakers are liberals.
They (conveniently) never blamed Saddam for the children he's killed for the past 20 years.

I think this site is seemingly balanced for the most part, because it's more moderate than radical.

Liberals do have the advantage though, and I'm glad that YN isn't plastered with Conservative propaganda.

I.e. "How can we stop Creationism from being taught in schools?" or "Gays shouldn't be allowed to marry! That's WRONG! Let's do something to stop this! (though many liberal Dems share this view, as well)"

Whatever the staff feels, many noiseboarders are very conservative. What's more, whether or not they are blaming Bush for the death of the children, some children died. This is not a poll on the war in Iraq, so I will stop going on about it. In case anyone wants to know what I feel about the subject, Bush stinks!!!!!!!!!!!

This website is flamboyantly leftist.

Just around the message board alone, look at the topics started by the NOISE staff.

Caught in the cross fire:


In the "Iraqi Kids Need Your Support" Thread

quote:

---

Last night, neighborhoods turned into war zones.

What will happen to the Iraqi kids caught in the crossfire?

---

This is obviously a parallel between Bush's policies and an attempt to say that he is, also trying to kill children.

Yet it saying nothing about having to live under a oppressive regime.

In "Kids of U.S. Troops Need Your Support"
It says

quote:

---

What if one or both of your parents got sent off to war...indefinitely?

Where would you live? Who would take care of you? How would you know if your parents are OK?

This is a reality for hundreds of thousands of kids all across the country.

---

Even worse than before. Yet, again trying to say the Bush's policies are hurting children, breaking up families and spreading fear.

In "The Global Community" it has under it:

quote:

---

Which policies are working, and which aren’t? Poverty, environmentalism, animal rights … are the major issues and conflicts being handled properly? Discuss.

---

Welfare, The Environment, and Animal rights are the only topic that we're cared to be listed.
All of which are considered Leftist(socialist)/Liberal and that conservatives seem uncompassionate about.

In the "War and Terrorism" under it says

quote:

---

Osama, Saddam, Bush...fear, freedom, innocent civilians, bloodshed.

---

Now this is more subliminal, but none the less the fact is Bush is listed with Osama, Saddam and 'innocent civilians, bloodshed' is a statement.
Of course freedom is in there too, but too Osama and Saddam also claim to be fighting for freedom.

Also round the rest of the site, there is a plethora of Leftist(social) "do it or you hate children" type issues.

One NOISE staff member trying to get people to call into a radio prgram listed a few issues to "Go off" about(In America) Like...

quote:

---

Government authority
Why foreign countries hate America

---

Another 'Bush is evil' type topics.

quote:

---

Keep Kids Out of It!

Iraqi women and children will get caught in the crossfire. You can help.

---

Anyone can spend 10 minutes on the web-site and determine it is obviously a Socialist/Liberal run site.

Nobody designated this as a liberal website, so why is it liberal? I know there are people with conservative views on here. If it is more liberal, then why is that?

Ok this is an unfair poll, this is a Liberal Website, and few conservatives are going to give it a second look.

So you not getting some crushing victory.

Yay, we're at 75%!

Bush SUCKS!!!!!!!!