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Picture of ICELAND
Registered: July 28, 2003
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I know 3,000 is a LOT but... they never cared when we had terroist attacks & wars? No! So why should we? & we can't do very much about it!




They never cared? Boy THAT'S not true! They were sad just like everybody else. Where do you get that? What did China do? It didn't do anything, but that doesn't mean it WANTED the Towers to fall!

Another thing, the Frech weren't saying "Good I'm glad thousands of Americans died!" like some Americans are saying about the heat wave in France! So what does that tell you about who cares about who?!
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Don't get me wrong, I love France, but this ridiculous, Geez so it's a little hot, deal with it... what do think we here in the south do, sit on our butts and complain about the heat, no.... we buy air conditioners.


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*sits in air conditioning* it's like 110 here, and it's one of our 'cool' dayz....ahhhhhh!





The South is used to being "hot", so you are prepared for it. But it is not 110 degrees (actual 110 degrees, not "It feels like it's 110 degrees) everyday for two weeks there.

Also, if the temp in the South suddenly jumped 20-30 degrees and stayed there for two weeks, the South wouldn't be prepared for it either. Things would dry up, fires would start, stuff like that. Or if the South was hit by one Minnesota winter I doubt you would be prepared for that, and people would probably die there too, although heat is much worse than cold.
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Well, Iceland, I am glad you asked me to explain, because I am willing, waiting and excited to explain to you what is so self-evident to everyone else.
Heat doesn't kill people. Unless, perhaps, they are five feet away from the sun. People not maintaining themself in heat will kill them. Perhaps if these people drank in excess of the recomened amoutn of water, instead of wine, they would be fine. As for air-conditioners? Ha, you think everyone in the Middle East has them? All they need to do is drink




People dying isn't poetic justice since the french did nothing to deserve it. And it's been 100+ in france for two weeks. That's hot, and they are not used to it, they don't have water and cooling and health prepared for that, since it never gets close to anything like that there.
Registered: August 11, 2003
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I like France, I'd like to visit there some day. But the heat problem they're haveing is much like say Mexico, or Georgia hitting -5 F, it is cold, but in Maine, it doesn't phase them. Mean while, it is unnaturally cold, and people are freezing to death. Are they wimps? No, they simply arn't used to such cold, phisically or educationally.

So what would the Northern areas do? Educate them, teach them to the best of their abilities. Maybe that is what we should try for France, maybe they simply need to know how to tack care of themselves better. could it be posible that they are drinking more than enough water, staying out of the sun, some may even have a.c., but that doesn't mean that they can servive unnatural heat.

I don't see a way to help them more than that, but perhaps my ravings will inspier someone else... good luck, and keep cool. Cool
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Registered: May 14, 2003
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Its seems to me that the most practical thing we could do to help them would be to circulate information explaining the things that we take knowing for granted.... stay, hydrated, out of direct sunlight, avoid prolonged strenuous physical activity, how to treat and prevent heatstroke, etc. I really dont see how I could do that from all the way over here though, and they are a fully modernized western society, shouldnt their government be taking care of it?
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Hardly any air conditioners destroy ozone anymore, lol.

But the problem is more one of lack of education in Europe. Ever student in America is drilled with how to treat heat stroke in health class. I'm not sure about france but it seems that isn't the case. We really can't help them in any way. It's up to them.

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I think back on that day at gymnastics; it wasn't even 100 degrees in the gym or outside, fans and open walls everywhere. I was a wimp.


Ha, you weren't a wimp, you were simply working too hard in too hot an evironment. Chugging a whole lot of water at once won't help you, you have to stay hydrated constantly.
Registered: May 03, 2003
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ok, the people in iraq are quite used to the heat. in densely populated europe, people aren't. wasn't the snow melting off the matterhorn and causing landslides. it's a little more intense than ppl think. it's in affecting ppl not used to the heat, older ppl, ill and the young are used to not having to drink as much water or being able to stay out in the sun all day. not everyone can go up in the mountains, most people have jobs and it isnt much cooler there.

and god... a government that doesn't want to help us does not justify letting thousands of people die. that has to be one of the most inhumane things i've ever heard.

i really dont think sending air conditioners would do any good. and does anyone else find it funny... ironic really... air conditioners... destroy ozone... more heat... haha, yea. it's all a big conspiracy in the air conditioning business!! haha
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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and water can't save you from heatstrokes. I was a sloshbelly when I collapsed into the air-conditioned house.
I think back on that day at gymnastics; it wasn't even 100 degrees in the gym or outside, fans and open walls everywhere. I was a wimp.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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This whole heat thing is not just because of wimps. I had lived in S.A. for over a year and I was nearly hospitalized by a heatstroke, me! Someone who is nearly never affected by the climate.
Registered: July 12, 2003
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Have they ever heard of drinking 6-8 glasses of water a day? & buying a fan or air conditionor? I know 3,000 is a LOT but... they never cared when we had terroist attacks & wars? No! So why should we? & we can't do very much about it! Send all of those people air conditioners? That's imposible... Roll Eyes

Always & Forever,
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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Well, Iceland, I am glad you asked me to explain, because I am willing, waiting and excited to explain to you what is so self-evident to everyone else.

Heat doesn't kill people. Unless, perhaps, they are five feet away from the sun. People not maintaining themself in heat will kill them. Perhaps if these people drank in excess of the recomened amoutn of water, instead of wine, they would be fine. As for air-conditioners? Ha, you think everyone in the Middle East has them? All they need to do is drink water.

How is this Poetic Justice? Take a look at Iraq.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
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3000 ppl this year?? Confused Eek wtf! do they not know about water?

*sits in air conditioning* it's like 110 here, and it's one of our 'cool' dayz....ahhhhhh!

*waiting for winter*

much luv

~*FOXY*~
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Registered: April 28, 2003
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In case you're wondering how hot the south can get.... I'm in virginia on my back porch lookin' at the temperature and it's 98 degrees... In the shade.... and god is it humid.... feels more like 105 degrees...*goes inside for air conditioning*
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Registered: April 28, 2003
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To me, it seems there would be very little we could do to help france, well.... we could send them those really nifty electric pocket fans.... we could each donate an ice cube.... or... maybe the people of france should look into buying air conditioners...

Don't get me wrong, I love France, but this ridiculous, Geez so it's a little hot, deal with it... what do think we here in the south do, sit on our butts and complain about the heat, no.... we buy air conditioners.
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can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. A little heat never hurt anyone. Perhaps they should drink more water instead of wine. Besides, poetic justice is a *****.



Well, that's the thing, the heat IS hurting people. And how is 3,000 people dying poetic justice??? Confused The French were sad for us when the WTC was hit!



Explain. If you can't, well it proves that you're just an anti-French propanda-eating foo.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. A little heat never hurt anyone. Perhaps they should drink more water instead of wine. Besides, poetic justice is a *****.
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Registered: November 27, 2002
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That's what I meant.
Tweet: I'd take a vacation to the mountains if i were there but I dunno how many people could. Razz
Napoleon: They don't have AC's because they rarely need them. In S.A., you pretty much never think twice about having one but they've never thought twice about NOT having one b4 this, save when there might be a real hot day once in a while.
And what was that about Africa? Confused
Billy: Glad to hear ur not letting ur being angry with france causse problems with the ac's Wink Most people think they're getting what they deserve (ok........)
Registered: July 31, 2003
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They aren't in Africa, *******. They have modern day technology. You actually think people in Europe don't have air conditioners but have computers and televisions and such?
It's the black plague returning in the form of a heat wave! Okay, this problem isn't THAT serious.
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Registered: March 08, 2003
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I dunno who, us or someone is getting air conditioners over there now. I may be angry at France...but this would be a great time to show them how much of a bunch of aholes we really are...and help them.
Registered: October 30, 2002
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It will not wipe out their population, that's an exaggeration of the problem. It is however a major concern for Europes' population, and not just in terms of health problems. The heat wave is putting a strain on their economy, as business suffer from brown outs due to failing infrastructure, a loss in tourism, and other problems. I would encourage some humanitarian aid to Europe, so that the people truly at risk for heatstroke or other things associated with high temperatures can go on with their lives through this crisis.
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