All I can say is that even though are many people that do not seem to care about helping out with these causes there are many, many more than do help. Every generation has its ungrateful people but every generation has its people that help out and do all that they can for others. Ours is no different.

If you want to know what I want you to do, then it is eat. How hard is that?

Sorry you thought the stastic about 15% of people was solely aimed at you. And the other 7 humans on the planet agree.

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It is a clinical fear of eating and weight gain.

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Ok so your afraid of getting fat because then you might….. What?

Whats the problem with gaining weight? Do you not think fat people ugly?

I’ve never been anorexic, No. I have gone days without eating however. I was almost hospitalized for Malnutrition. Try explaining to someone who doesn’t eat, not because there afraid of getting fat, gaining weight at all, or how they look, but because they have no food, why it is your anorexic.

30 Hour famine is non-profit.

If you want a Non-Christian organization because you are too hateful to agree with a Christian Try UNICEF.

But this really works out. I think I am going to start an organization that replaces starving kids with anorexic people.

This way the Kids will get the food you choose not to eat, and you can’t eat because there is no food around and you won’t have to worry about gaining a pound.



I'm sure this guy would agree.

I also pointed out over-weight people are just as guilty.

Sorry to strike a Nerve with you Puffin, If want I can talk with you About this on Aim.

Public service to think of creative ways to combat hunger?

There's no public about it, puffin.

And the solutions to all of our problems were found when this country started.

Two words, puffin: private sector.

See, it's you though, that is so anti-religion that you wouldn't allow a Christian charity to give food or supplies to starving kids.

It's that attitude, is what I'm saying, that is keeping these people like they are.

To put it bluntly, it shouldn't be my tax money going to someone who doesn't make the choice to eat; ya, ya, ya, it's a disease, I don't know much about it, but everyone has an excuse for everything.

But then again, let the little kids starve while you and your Politically Correct twits hold on to that mythical separation of church and state deal.

If it weren't for the Christian charities puffin, your precious hungry children would probably have NEVER been fed.

But go ahead, hang on to your anti-Christian bias; just more people dying because of it.

P*ss off, Dauben, you have no more room to call me ungrateful than Korith does. I'm glad I disgust you, because you disgust me equally. You're an arrogant, judgemental, narrow-minded, bible-thumping hee-haw. I'm sorry I don't want to give money to "charities" that stuff more money into the pockets of the overweight wealthy white male Christian who's trying to buy his way into heaven than those of the people who really need it. I am planning for a job in public service some day where I will be able to help think of creative solutions to such societal plagues as hunger, but there is only so much opportunity open to me at this point in my life.

I have a disease called anorexia, you have one called Christianity. People like you look down on me for my disease, but you're indignant when I look down on you for yours. Hell, if I just started calling anorexia a religion maybe I'd finally get some respect.

Here's the thing I don't get; you people moan and groan and complain about poverty and about hunger, yet you go and fire off something about giving money to Christian charities.

How ridiculous.

Do you people not know that because of those Christian charities, Habitat for Humanity would have NEVER happened, or that a TON of people in Third World countries would have NOT been fed?

How ungrateful you are, puffin. People like you disqust me with your "I have a disease, but at the same time, look at you giving to Christian charities."

It all goes back to your only little grudges.

Just think of what would happen if we DIDN'T have these Christian charities.

How sick and twisted you people are.

If the private sector charities and organizations took over this country's social services, like disease treatment, hunger, poverty, etc. then you'd see a SHARP reduction in taxes as well as an increase in donation-giving.

But no, you people get so anti-capitalism when it even MENTIONS something along the lines of religion.

If that's the way you people feel about it, then Africa should remain as is.

Thank you magnus; someone puts a personal experience story to this thread. Seriously, good job.

Wadingo, you support globalization, but also say it hasn't done jack?

Haha.

You're obviously not paying attention to the underlying theme of free trade.

In free trade, or global trade, countries, people, cultures, and cities are allowed to trade with whomever they want, wherever they want, and trade WHATEVER they want.

It is not free trade that keeps kids starving and people dying.

That's your Communist literature telling you all free trade (i.e., perk of capitalism) is bad and bankrupts countries.

And that just isn't true.

The governments of these places do not ALLOW for the free movement of goods, services and food.

If the governments - nine out of 10 are Socialist/Communist - allowed the free movement of goods, services and food, you would not see so much poverty, hunger, etc.

Remember that the next time you want to get in on the globalization debate.

I'm not saying EVERY aspect of globalization is good, that I'm not.

But capitalism does not make life worse; free enterprise, free trade and the private sector can do so much for so many people; it's the governments that are the problem.

Until you people realize this, keep griping about the hunger and poverty of the world.

Korith, I'd like to know what the **** you want me to do. Thirty hour famines? I can do two month famines. I do them all the time, because I'm anorexic. And you know what? It's not like the workers at the grocery store go "Oh, she's not going to buy food today, let's send it to someone who's starving." Maybe I'm just pissed off about being called ungrateful by a complete stranger, but I don't think you have any real ideas for solving our problems. Hm, except maybe giving money to Christian charities.

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That makes me so ******* mad. I am shaking. You obviously have no ******* idea what anorexia is. It is a disease. It is a clinical fear of eating and weight gain. It is not a lack of gratitude. And I do NOT starve myself to "look good". If you have any more accusations to fling in my direction you can just address me by name or else **** off. Your ignorance on this subject is enough to bring tears to my eyes. This isn't like you at all, Korith.

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Yeah, globalization is a good thing, but so far it has done jack-**** to help the third world nations of this planet. Third world nations should recieve more help. Ooh, that pic of the kid made me flinch. Yuck. See what poverty can do to u? That's what.

Okay, I made some ****ty grammatical errors in my last post.
Anyway, Socrates, I joined the Amnesty club at our school, but it was pretty disorganized. I plan to join again after a year of shunning the club because my friend is on the cabinet, and I have faith in her capabilities.
I'll all for helping out usually, but I get really irritated when people who point fingers at those who don't avidly offer a helping hand. It just makes them even more unwilling to help.
And just a side note, in accordance to dj's comment. My group leader at yearbook camp knows a woman who has dedicated her life to helping these people. She asked to be sent to a South American country, I believe, because she already knew some French, or something or another. At any rate, she loves what she does, despite the fact that she has exactly one bucket's worth of water to use each month. Her husband often jokes about how he said he'd follow her anywhere if he had to, and it ends up truly happening. So they do this kind of work as a couple.


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If you're that concerned, go protest the WTO in Cancun! A South Korean farmer killed himself in protest. Meh, I bet you've never even lain on the cold, wet ground for three hours to protest human rights abuses. If you have, my apologies for what i'm about to write. If not, don't f*ck with me! I participated in a die-in at the School Of the Americas... I got banned for life from the local mall for protesting consumerism in their parking lot... I spent hours composing letters to the newspaper about why laizzes-faire economic policies suck... I signed and helped circulate a petition against the World Bank... I accepted complete social outcast status in in high school for doing all this and going to a conservative school...
When you face men with big guns just to walk up to the fence and leave an origami crane there, then and only then can you tell me I'm full of ****. And you know what? By that time i'll probably have attended an even more major protest, made some greater sacrifice. I've done a lot more for the poor of the world than you have, and will continue to do so for the rest of my life.

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Pffft, you "protestors" are all the same, you go and do a sit-down and you feel like you done a great task for this world. Let me tell you something child, as soon as you give up 6 months of your life and leave your hometown to work in a country where nobody knows you, then you can speak to me about good deeds. As soon as you put in 12 hour work days of building houses in a foreign country, then you can speak to me about doing something, otherwise keep your mouth shut.

I tried to join Amnesty International. The local rep never returned my phone calls. I'm probably to the left of anyone on this board and I support globalization. Doesn't that say something about it's necessity?

Well, of course, people care (and sure, I care too).
It is not just the teenagers who consume resources (money goes into industrializing such countries rather than to buying food for the poor, for example. Did the U.S. not donate a massive amount of genetically altered corn to an African country not too long ago? The president did not give the corn to his hungry people because he said he doesn't trust food that's been altered by science). As a whole, humans do. Some see this as perfectly acceptable, while you and others will scream blasphemy because were so good at being wasteful, and assume we're all ingrateful little brats who take without giving.
Just because someone has money doesn't mean that person can afford to help anyone but him/herself. I'm online, and my cable service costs money, as well as the electricity which powers the computer and desk lamp. My math tutor will be driving here in a car that cost money to make, to buy, and requires more expenses for gas and maintainance. Luxuries, you say?
Not in this society. In American society, some luxuries are necessities, such as private vehicles, computers, etc. We're all busy with our own lives, but not all of us in this "ungrateful generation" are ingrates.
Maybe I'm shallow for being so consumed in my homework, my friends, my standardized testing, my pursuit of attending a college and then fulfilling my own dream. So sue me for wanting to being so capitalistic. Write to a higher authority, if you think teenagers are just too pig-headed to listen. Ask them what they're doing to help. Join Amnesty. Those bleeding-hearts might make you feel at home.

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If you're that concerned, go protest the WTO in Cancun! A South Korean farmer killed himself in protest. Meh, I bet you've never even lain on the cold, wet ground for three hours to protest human rights abuses. If you have, my apologies for what i'm about to write. If not, don't **** with me! I participated in a die-in at the School Of the Americas... I got banned for life from the local mall for protesting consumerism in their parking lot... I spent hours composing letters to the newspaper about why laizzes-faire economic policies suck... I signed and helped circulate a petition against the World Bank... I accepted complete social outcast status in in high school for doing all this and going to a conservative school...
When you face men with big guns just to walk up to the fence and leave an origami crane there, then and only then can you tell me I'm full of ****. And you know what? By that time i'll probably have attended an even more major protest, made some greater sacrifice. I've done a lot more for the poor of the world than you have, and will continue to do so for the rest of my life.

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Oh, yes I forgot how the IMF helped Argentina right, or the how WTO helped out a bunch of third world countries right? What a crock of ****, if globalization was played fairly then yes it could help but the WTO and IMF and the WB hardly have a record of fair play and being good Samaritans.

Feeds the person buying it, the waiter who serves it, the chef who cooked it, the farm laborers who dug it up or killed it, and anyone with whom they exchange money for goods or services. Plus it gives them all the dignity of a job, something you don't get with handouts.

people need to think about how much raman they could buy to feed the poor instead of spending $50 dollars on a plate of food

You're the one whose profile says you're outraged by liberals. If you think capitalist solutions won't solve the world's problems, what will? Feudalism failed, which is why we switched to capitalism. If socialism failed too, what other choice do we have? I never said globalization would solve all the world's problems. Just that it is the best option, and that we support it best by consuming, not by giving to charity. There is no panacea.

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We support globalization best not by giving to charity, but by buying goods made in other countries.

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I am trying to keep myself restraind here.

If these people could grow there own food, do you think they would be starving?

Most of these people live in shacks, No energy, no running water.

What goods do they have to produce? Work for them is busting themselves up in sweat shops sowing brand names on jeans and shoes. Making less then a dollar a week.

They have no Medical schools to study at, no Buisness/Law schools. Most kids ar lucky to live long enough to go to a school at all. And the teachers are volenteers from other countires.

Even so, Who is the Mecca of world trading? AMERICA! People still starve to death here!

13 million children lived in households that did not have an adequate supply of food and 3 million of these children lived in households that experienced hunger.

70% of Homeless people say they lost there homes because they had to choose between paying rent, or eating.

Globalization is good, but you are in a fanisty world if you think that is going to Cure Hunger and Poverty.

A rising tide lifts all boats. Globalization will eventually make everyone wealthy. We support globalization best not by giving to charity, but by buying goods made in other countries. If we can save more lives by not caring enough to get involved, then why should we? It's counterproductive.