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WTF. If you wanna celebrate mexican independance day, go to Mexico. This is the USA, and Texas, despite what you may have heard, is still part of the United States. Just because there are more Mexicans here than Americans doesn't make it Mexico. I saw a picture of a Mexican flag flying higher than an American flag, here in Austin. I'm not sure, but I think this is illegal. Joey, correct me if I'm wrong.

Ok so if you leave Mexico to escape the slums, you aren't allowed to celebrate a MEXICAN holiday in the US. Its not a cultural holiday, its an Independence day. Its the equivalent of moving to London and having a big 4th of july celebration in Piccadilly Circus. Its absurd!

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A "rant" on http://forums.dankus.net turned into a very informational debate, and it should be noted here:

No, no, no, rant is definitely not over.

Keep it going, because I watched the news last night and was just, "WTF is the deal with celebrating Mexican Independence in OUR state and in OUR country?"

The Enemies will say it's just a "cultural" thing, but that's BS.

This is the first I've heard of a Mexican flag being higher than the American one, but it's no surprise.

Wanna know what the Mexicans in Waxahachie (town near where I live) think?

At Hastings (a bookstore) - and if you don't believe me, go there and look - there are t-shirts that say, "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed us."

Then there are some with *#($#$(#@ de Atzlan; Atzlan, if you recall, is what Mexicans say is the southwestern part of the United States (Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, California) that the U.S.A. "illegally" stole from Mexicans a long, long, loooong time ago.

So the Mexicans are being brought over here thinking they "own" the SW part of the U.S. I did some stories on this for the paper because at the time, Mexican President Vicente Fox appointed a Governing Council to represent -- get this, REPRESENT Mexicans here.

Basically what this means is this: The Mexican President appointed council members in each of the five states to deal with issues Mexicans have with social services, government, etc., etc.

WTF?!

Now, for more "conspiracy" stuff, you should check this stuff out. This pretty much gives you a glimpse of what these idiotic people believe and are wanting to do:

http://www.insearchofaztlan.com

http://www.insearchofaztlan.com/plan.html

http://english.pravda.ru/letters/2001/11/19/21313.html

And if you think I'm joking, go down to Hastings, or just look around; our government allows them to collect social security and health benefits, to get educated in our taxpayer-funded schools, to use our taxpayer-funded facilities and health care providers, and to get driver's licenses even.

Heck, these people are even allowed to take out home loans!

I'm all for diversity of thought, of people, of culture, but not at the expense of this nation's independence.

If you want to celebrate American Independence Day, do it on July 4th.

There is only one country here and that's America; not Mexico, not Spain, not England, but AMERICA.

The Revolution was not fought so Mexicans and Politically Correct Multiculturalist Preachers could come and just run us over.

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despite how long ago it happend..the native inhabitants of the americas where SLUAGHTERED and robed of their lands by the founders of this country....NO AMOUNT OF TIME CAN MAKE THAT RIGHT!If they want ot celibrate their holiday in what is now TEXAS I say more power to them.

peace

Whoa, you guys are so ignorant. Do you not realize that every single day America shoves their "patriotic spirit" in the faces of every other country in the world? And yet we still complain about Mexicans celebrating their independence with one, little parade? Who cares?! How is it effecting your life? It's not like they're running upto every white person they see and are saying "Doom on you for being American!" Patriotism can be a good thing, but don't dish it if you can't take it.

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Socrates, you're still using the same old methods of complete ridiculousness, implying that I am a "bigoted moron."

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The truth hurts, Joey.

Hmm, raising the Mexican flag above the American one is ridiculous. But if celebrating Mexican Independence Day is part of their culture, I don't see why they shouldn't be able to. It isn't necessarily a threatening thing.

Thinking about Americans living here in Britain... I wouldn't object to their celebrating the 4th of July, or Thanksgiving. It's part of American history and culture. But I would probably object to having parades and fireworks.

I can see how if there are more Mexicans than Americans in Texas it might happen that way.

Bex

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This same group of people also claim that it's a Constitutional right for my parents to pay for YOU to go to school and I think that's absolute bullsh.

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ahahaha so wait, because im of a different color, im not allowed to go to school and get an education?

I'm a white southerner. If anything I've been conditioned toward mild racism/sexism. I can remember in 4th grade gym class when we did ocassional basketball tournaments and once I was out I always cheered for the remaining white males.

I would have a problem if you came over where and started doing what crap? Celebrating your culture if it was different from mine? Holding political rallies? Yeah, i might be a littled offended but I would still support your right to do it.

Calling people "browns" shows your biases.But you're not a racist conservative like I first thought. I must reiterate that you're a ****ing communist if you opposepublic education. You've just done a good job of hiding your communist agenda. You can do that logically only on the assumption that people working for their best interests does not benefit society as a whole, which is a very Marxist thought. Give me a capitalist argument against providing public education. Not everyone can afford to send their kids to private school, or has the time for homeschooling. Maybe you don't realize this, but a helluva lot of jobs now depend on having literacy and arithmetic skills. And most of those on having more advanced skills. Abilities which most people would never gain in the world you fetishize.

No Socrates, I'm not going to support the "investment" of someone's tax money into Communist "free public schools."

Taxpayers pay so much in property taxes, and for what? So they can go and get completely brainwashed by some Marxist-worshipping professor at some anti-individualist university? Please. You can take your Communist free public schools and "invest" in Iraq or Russia where they belong.

Socrates, you're still using the same old methods of complete ridiculousness, implying that I am a "bigoted moron."

You're going to have to do better than that. I'm glad someone has the balls to see from where I'm coming from. You might think I'm the only one that is uncomfortable with this "cultural" celebration going on with the brown people and what not, but you're the one that needs an education.

It's all fine and good to bend over backwards for these people to come over here and do whatever the hell they want, because you and others have been conditioned to think, "Oh, well it's okay, it's all 'cultural.'"

Please, spare me your you-know-everything routine and accept the fact that I, unlike America as a whole, am not a pushover.

I don't know where you're from, what color you are, but YOU would have a problem if I came over and started doing this sorta crap.

And then to call me bigoted because of it.

You're a sell-out to your own "cause" Socrates. Quite pathetic if you ask me. Can't take an opposing view, so you tag me a bigot.

That will only get you so far.


Well, browns have their Independence Day celebrations all they want, but don't bring it over to the freakin United States to do it.

All I know is that I won't be participating or covering them.

Celebrating Mexican independence day doesn't make other people uncomfortable. It makes joey uncomfortable. That's one ****ing person, not people. Get the word right or other bigoted morons will exploit your willingness to compromise.

As for education, Joey, the people going to school in the US were born here or came when they were very young. Many of them, byt the constitutional definition, are American ****ing citizens. If you had an education you would understand the societal value of education. We give people free schools b/c it's an investment. They return the favor by being good capitalists and helping America through their greed. If you truly believe that people working for their own best interests helps society (and you do if you're not a communist), then you will support giving them the tools to adequately seek their best interests, because this is what will most help society. So quit spreading commie propaganda joey.

My country IS America.

But I can see your point and I understand what you mean. I guess that we would not see nothing wrong with it since we never had anyone point out the way they felt. I had no idea that celebrating this(or the manner in which we celebrate it) would make other people unconfterble. I can see what you mean.

sweet day.

How would you feel if a big group of white Americans came down to YOUR country and scheduled a ton of Happy Fourth of July events, parades and fireworks shows?

Would that still be cultural?

Would you like the fact that we were there celebrating our independence day in an entirely different country?

With fireworks, American flags waving higher than the Mexican flag, and with school children singing the Star Spangled Banner?

Think about that for a minute.

Think about if you were in school and a bunch of Anglo Americans came down, decked in red, white and blue ...

wow...

I'm Mexican-American.

I was born here and I'm a proud American. But I do believe that celebrating the Mexican Independence day here is a cultural thing and even though I don't go to those celebrations I really don't see what's wrong with them. I don't know about the raising Mexican flag higher than American flag thing, I've never seen that. I was not raised and do not believe that we are here to "take back what belongs to us." America's territory is what it is now and theirs nothing I want or can do about that. I'm very sorry that you feel this way about us.

See, it's the multicultural, diversity-everything politically correct genre that has given these Hispanic people the misguided view that they own my state and four others.

This same group of people also claim that it's a Constitutional right for my parents to pay for YOU to go to school and I think that's absolute bullsh.

Every single person on this forum who even comes close to agreeing with these ridiculous "celebrations" and would agree to have another nation's flag fly above ours deserves to be shipped to Europe where you can live in complete misery; you can have it.

But leave my country alone.

And this goes for Republicans and so-called "conservatives" too, who think world government is the answer.