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Picture of marine16
Registered: February 22, 2002
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Joey, Bushsupporter asked you for proof about high crime rates around MLK streets, where is it? I myself looked for the proof and found non. This has become a common theme with you. You make a claim and refuse to back it up. When someone investigates you claim they find no evidence in support of it.

"shoot-the-messenger" -Are you telling us that God told you to tell us the MLK was a bad person?

" The high-crime rates on MLK-named streets are evident" - Why? because mainly African Americans live around MLK streets?

Why did you say stastically crime rates are higher around MLK streets when you now say its just an opinion. Is the American Union just an opinion not a fact?

If you reply to this with any kind of evidence - which I highly doubt you will - please do not give me your own editorial from the Ellis County press about pythonos getting saved on Wood Street.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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Think about it...

Christianity preaches that you will recieve an eternal afterlife, if you will just give up your selfish ways and do what is good for all men.

Communism preaches that you will recieve a wonderful life, if you will just give up your selfish ways and do what is good for all men.

If you swap god, and the state, and put the afterlife here on earth communism is christianity is communism.

I can draw some cartoons if its hard for you to understand, because It might be a little tought for a 20 year old high school grad.
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Uhh...no, but I'm having a hard time understanding what you mean by the "same damn thing."

Wanting people to worship the State as a god, yes, I can see what you mean.

If you're saying Christians are Communists, then no, you're wrong.
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Joey, replace state with god, and its the same damn thing.
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The overwhelming majority of Christians identify communism with atheism.


Communists want you to worship the State, not God, not no other god, but the State. You sacrifice your life for the sake of the State.

That is not Christianity.


Here we go again, the Bush-marine team...shoot-the-messenger.

Totally bypass the entire argument; you can't win on the MLK-with-Communists thing because I'm right.

The high-crime rates on MLK-named streets are evident, but that was an opinion, not a fact.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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I have to agree with Bushsupporter, Joey, I would like your proof about crime rates around MLK streets. I asked for it a few days ago and you still haven't provided me with anything.

This sounds a lot like the American Union, doesn't bushsupporter? Joey made up an idea and has no evidence to back it up.

Oh by the way Joey, as Bushsupporter said - please don't give me you own editorial as your proof.
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Oh man, Dauben. I think you have gone over the line this time. First, your racism sickens me. I literally had to run to the bathroom and vomit when I read your post, twice. And second, I would like some proof to the fact that higher crime rates occur around certain street names, and even if that was true, which it most certainly isn't, how is that MLK's fault. Show me your proof, preferably not from your own editorial, and I will take into account that point, but until then I will be sick to my stomach thinking about your blatant and utter racism. And anyone who agrees with dauben should definately go and seek professional help to get over your inner racism. It is people like you that give non-racist whites a bad name.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Anyone at the time who supported M-X was a hater of MLK.
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Registered: March 09, 2004
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how does that imply im racist, am i not allowed to make a bad comment on MLK becasue I'm white. I hate when people try and use the race card.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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"how can you say MLK was one of the most imporatant people in our history?" - Uh, he was the leader of the civil rights movement.

"if he hadnt have been assasinated this wouldnt even be a topic" So every one who has been assisnated was not important? What about Lincoln?

If people on this site are racists I would prefer to have them admit it than to attack someone who is defending the champion of the civil rights movemenet.
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how can you say MLK was one of the most imporatant people in our history? if he hadnt have been assasinated this wouldnt even be a topic
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Registered: February 22, 2002
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This is just like Dauben, so paranoid he has taken to attacking one of the most important people in our history.

Oh, and by the way, can you provide me with your proof that MLK streets have a high crime rate?

This board is just a way to try to cover up racism with fancy words and made up 'facts'.
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How is Christianity the same thing as communism? I don't think you know what one is, or maybe what both are. Christianity and communism clash with one another. Christianity preaches dependence on God, communism preaches dependence on government. The overwhelming majority of Christians identify communism with atheism. Ever notice Reagan's barely disguised Christian vs. Atheist rhetoric during the Cold War?
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yes, martin luther king was a known womanizer, and allegedly cheated on his wife many times. Not to downplay some of the great things he did for African Americans, though.
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Malcolm X was far from sleazy, even before his change during '64. Gemini, I hold you to higher standards.
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guess yuo cant have both.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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Don't forget that Malcom X had quite the turn-around near the end of his life, taking to heart the principles of brotherhood and peace of Islam.
...so the Nation of Islam killed him.
Registered: May 23, 2003
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"Either you agree or you disagree. Either an American or a Communist."

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Atheism and Communism



please explain.
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funny because christianity is pretty much the same thing as communism.

Except for the key fact that Communism is based on Dialectical Materialism, while Christianity is most defiantly not. If we wanted to continue to do the simple association game it could equally be said that Atheism and Communism are the same thing.
But I’m sure that won’t keep Libertarians from claiming that everything they disagree with has a relation with Communism. Case and point you have certain Christian Libertarians saying Atheism is Communist and then you have Atheist Libertarians saying Christianity is Communist.
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