I saw a headline after that helicopter crashed the other day: "31 Die in the Deadliest Day in Iraq." This of course causes the reader to think that they were killed in an attack because Iraq is such chaos. This of course is not true, but the liberals in the media are becoming successful painting it that way. My point is that Iraq is becoming stable. Elections are in two days and nearly 19,000 candidates from hundres of political parties are participating, but it is never enough for the liberals. What will it take for them to realize that this has been a success?

Elections are a sign of change and civilization. Finally the people of Iraq are free and the left is angry. What a surprise.

Well BS, I suppose you wouldn't be a true NeoCon if you didn't combine unrealistic optimism with ugly partisan politics in the face of a single positive event.

Yes, the elections were a milestone. While this war is far from over, they were a much needed morale boost. Also, they make the war look better and encourage other nations to get involved, which is exactly what we need.

But to say that the Iraqi election alone justifies the war in Iraq is like saying Daria justifies the existence of MTV. The fact is that by invading Iraq, America has both killed and created a large number of terrorists. While the GOP is triumphantly saying "Mission Accomplished" for the second time around, it is also requesting more funding to combat terrorists who might have taken up pottery had we just stayed home. Flip-flops, anyone?

Also, what I'm sure Fox News conveniently left out if that a large percentage of the Sunni population elected not to vote. While this can be viewed as a good thing (as we want the Kurds in charge), it sends off warning bells. The dark side to the election was that it was a tell-tale sign that Sunni extremists aren't going to take implemented democracy sitting down (my turn to say "what a surprise"). While these Sunni extremists make up a relatively small percentage of the overall population, they will continue guerilla strikes to slow progress for years to come. In other words, there's ample reason to believe that on the fatality level, things are about as stable now as they're going to get.

As we kill these extremists, they'll use our homicides to fuel their propoganda. Even if Al Jazeera gets shut down, it won't be difficult for Iraqi Sunni extremists to branch out to sympathizing extremists in neighboring nations for new recruits. Remember: the Middle East, as a whole, doesn't much care for us.

As for your whole "liberals hate freedom" crusade: it's disgusting, offense, unrealistic, and ugly. I might as well say that every time an American soldier in Iraq commits a successful homicide, the White House staff has an orgy.

The war on Iraq was not neccessary and if the president was so sure that the civilians needed to be liberated then why did he bypass the most important organization in the world that represents and sets the standards of human rights for the international community? Because he did not get a majority vote or approval in the Security Council meaning that the legislative body of the UN did not agree with his actions. How can you claim that the war was successful since the election took place. The war was to liberate the people and give them freedom. Their freedom is incomplete without proper education systems, clean drinking water, and other basic needs outlined the UN's Declaration of Human Rights. By the way, how do you explain the fact that the Ministry of Oil was the only Ministry from the previous regime that was kept intact. If you want to know how 'liberated' the people of Iraq feel, watch Bridge to Baghdad Parts 1 and 2.

P.S. I am not saying Saddam Hussein and his sons did not violate the Human Rights of their people. But there were other ways to go about this war while minimizing the civilian fatalities. Unfortunately some world leaders are not tactful in their military decisions and the civilian population ends up losing out.

there was no need for US to inrude in the first place. where are the WMDs?? The whole 'war' (sad to call it a war beacuse it was one strong side just killing civilians) was a diplomatic drama

whats next?? syria, korea...

the US is already nosing in on the India Pakistan issue. can someone ask bush to concenterate on his own land instaed of searchin for oil reserves elsewhere

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So you liberals have nothing to say in response to the "Freedom Update" I posted earlier. I see that you have finally been shown the truth.

We may have been shown it, but do we accept it? Not on your life. The war in Iraq was a farce. It was totally unneeded. But since when does the US do what is needed and wanted? Were the Iraqis pleading for liberation? No, they were content. Change is bad, in the words of the old axiom. Change can be disruptive. Why don't we go invade a country where the citizens want freedom? Take Cuba, for instance. If we finally get rid of old Castro, we won't have to worry about those annoying Cubans showing up in Florida in tiny sail boats.

*yawns* You can try to prove to me that the war was justified, BS, but you won't convince me. I know what I think, and it's not what you try to make me think.

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I saw a headline after that helicopter crashed the other day: "31 Die in the Deadliest Day in Iraq." This of course causes the reader to think that they were killed in an attack because Iraq is such chaos. This of course is not true, but the liberals in the media are becoming successful painting it that way. My point is that Iraq is becoming stable. Elections are in two days and nearly 19,000 candidates from hundres of political parties are participating, but it is never enough for the liberals. What will it take for them to realize that this has been a success?

Here's something you might have realized is wonrg:
1.) When was it the US's job to "liberate" other countries from their choice of government?
2.) So many people have died for an extremely LOW turnout at elections!
3.) Did you ever hear about Iraqi prisoner torturings? Car bombs? Over 1,000 dead???

So, I see that no one disagrees with my post. Elections do prove that the war has gone well and been right and just.

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
No, we should not just rejoice on the day of the elections, we should rejoice every day that Iraqi children go to school, and every day that Iraqi women go to work, and every day Iraqi men make a good living instead of just scraping by.

I was afraid this was going to happen. The liberals shut-up for one day and now it is back to nay-saying, Bush-hatred, and pessimism. The fact is that if the liberals had their way, Iraq would not be free. There would be no elections, women would still be in rape rooms, people getting gassed in enormous numbers, a madman still in power. Is this what the left would like to see again?!? I certainly hope not.

We should rejoice all of the above and Iraqi freedom.

No, we should not just rejoice on the day of the elections, we should rejoice every day that Iraqi children go to school, and every day that Iraqi women go to work, and every day Iraqi men make a good living instead of just scraping by.

I was afraid this was going to happen. The liberals shut-up for one day and now it is back to nay-saying, Bush-hatred, and pessimism. The fact is that if the liberals had their way, Iraq would not be free. There would be no elections, women would still be in rape rooms, people getting gassed in enormous numbers, a madman still in power. Is this what the left would like to see again?!? I certainly hope not.

Today was a very historic one for Iraq and its citizens. They should be very proud to vote. Eve though the elections are positive, the war will still be going on tomorrow and the day after that. The elections are just one small step of many difficult steps to get Iraq back on track for the future.

Today was a very historic day for Iraq. Iraqis should be proud that they voted and are making a difference in their counrty. The elections were great. We should rejoice today Bushsupporter, but the war will still be going on tomorrow and the day after that. The elections are only one step of many to get Iraq back on track for the future.

OK, no there aren't. Read up on the way that it works. It is kind of like a parliamentary system where the National Assembly is elected by party not candidate.

From FoxNews.com: "Am I scared? Of course I'm not scared. This is my country," said Fathiya Mohammed, 50. That makes me proud.

Will it still be "worth it" if a theocratic, anti american, hyperconservative government is elected?

There are too many candidates. They are going to split the vote too much, and create a minority president.

youthNOISE is insane today.

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Update Freedom: The polling places were closed in Iraq as of an hour ago and only 25 people were killed in the "carnage and chaos of the unjust war/quagmire/failure." Initial reports say that 72% of registered voters turned out to vote. There was one story on the news about a polling place in Mosul. For the first hour no one voted, and a group simply gathered and milled around by the front door out in the street. Finally one man got up the courage to enter and the rest followed. The right to vote and select our own destiny is often taken for granted here, but there people are risking their lives to perform the civic right and duty. I am proud to be an American today, as our light has shown a dark spot of the world. I am proud to be a human as the people of Iraq excrcise their freedom and their God-given rights to liberty. This is truly a great day for humanity and has shown that perserverence in the face of hardship can and will pay off. America and the rest of the Freedom loving peoples of the world should rejoice today with the sweet sounds of Freedom, Liberty, Life, and the Pursiut of Happiness.

I entirely agree agree with the quote.

It was directed toward the anti-war liberals. Let me help you.

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Update Freedom: The polling places were closed in Iraq as of an hour ago and only 25 people were killed in the "carnage and chaos of the unjust war/quagmire/failure." Initial reports say that 72% of registered voters turned out to vote. There was one story on the news about a polling place in Mosul. For the first hour no one voted, and a group simply gathered and milled around by the front door out in the street. Finally one man got up the courage to enter and the rest followed. The right to vote and select our own destiny is often taken for granted here, but there people are risking their lives to perform the civic right and duty. I am proud to be an American today, as our light has shown a dark spot of the world. I am proud to be a human as the people of Iraq excrcise their freedom and their God-given rights to liberty. This is truly a great day for humanity and has shown that perserverence in the face of hardship can and will pay off. America and the rest of the Freedom loving peoples of the world should rejoice today with the sweet sounds of Freedom, Liberty, Life, and the Pursiut of Happiness.

"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

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So you liberals have nothing to say in response to the "Freedom Update" I posted earlier. I see that you have finally been shown the truth.

Was that directed towards me?

So you liberals have nothing to say in response to the "Freedom Update" I posted earlier. I see that you have finally been shown the truth.

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Mac, you misunderstood me. I was trying to say what Iraq needs to get its self on the right track. And i was defining "not chaos." What is needed in Iraq. LMAO(Laughing My A** Off? Are you joking? Grow Up.

Oh I see. I thought you were misunderstanding my question and answering what iraq was. And yes the generally accepted meaning of LMAO is what you said. It's not intended to be mean to you. I just found it funny that I thought you were saying Iraq is prosperous and peaceful.