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Originally posted by mac123:

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What about peace? What about prosperity for all? Now if I was a hippy (not that I am): Peace and Love for all!
Chaos...hurts

LMAO. Did you go back to see what I was quoting. I sincerely doubt you mean what you are saying. You're saying Iraq is 'peace' and 'prosperity for all'?

Mac, you misunderstood me. I was trying to say what Iraq needs to get its self on the right track. And i was defining "not chaos." What is needed in Iraq. LMAO(Laughing My A** Off? Are you joking? Grow Up.

tears of joy. seriously. i agree. it is sad that 25 people died but it is a good reminder that we as Americans are lucky that we do not need to fear for our lives to vote.

Update Freedom: The polling places were closed in Iraq as of an hour ago and only 25 people were killed in the "carnage and chaos of the unjust war/quagmire/failure." Initial reports say that 72% of registered voters turned out to vote. There was one story on the news about a polling place in Mosul. For the first hour no one voted, and a group simply gathered and milled around by the front door out in the street. Finally one man got up the courage to enter and the rest followed. The right to vote and select our own destiny is often taken for granted here, but there people are risking their lives to perform the civic right and duty. I am proud to be an American today, as our light has shown a dark spot of the world. I am proud to be a human as the people of Iraq excrcise their freedom and their God-given rights to liberty. This is truly a great day for humanity and has shown that perserverence in the face of hardship can and will pay off. America and the rest of the Freedom loving peoples of the world should rejoice today with the sweet sounds of Freedom, Liberty, Life, and the Pursiut of Happiness.

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What about peace? What about prosperity for all? Now if I was a hippy (not that I am): Peace and Love for all!
Chaos...hurts

LMAO. Did you go back to see what I was quoting. I sincerely doubt you mean what you are saying. You're saying Iraq is 'peace' and 'prosperity for all'?

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Originally posted by Bushsupporter:
Blue, You don't seem to understand that democracy will work for EVERYONE. We are endowed by our creator with the yearning for freedom. It doesn't matter how many different "sects" there are, it will succeed.

Did I read it right? Democracy will work for everyone? There are so many different ethnic groups in Iraq that the violence will continue (unfortunatly) for a long time. Blue you are correct. And for the record, if a democrat (Gore) won in 2000 and the same things were happening now, I would have the same opinion.

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No, I am saying that it isn't chaos.

So do you have a word to describe what you are calling it besides 'not chaos'?

What about peace? What about prosperity for all? Now if I was a hippy (not that I am): Peace and Love for all!
Chaos...hurts

Blue, You don't seem to understand that democracy will work for EVERYONE. We are endowed by our creator with the yearning for freedom. It doesn't matter how many different "sects" there are, it will succeed.

Thanks for qouting my entire post which was directly below yours, bluedemocract, that wasn't reduntant at all.

Yes they will unite. Turkey is united. England is United. The United States is united. Do you not understand that there are differences in those countries no different than the differences in Iraq?

How can you say the killings will get worse when almsot every expert who has spoken on the matter disagress with you?

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Originally posted by marine16:
Bushsupporter, you have said it well.

If we were to believe the liberal media we would believe that the war in Iraq is worse than the trench fighting in WWI. But of course we know that is not true because we have soldiers from Iraq to testify otherwise.

A glorious day will dawn on Iraq when they are governed by a man of their choosing.

Marine, do you honestly think that Iraq will unite under one leader? There are too many religious and ethnic groups. If anything the killing will get worse after the elections.

Bushsupporter, you have said it well.

If we were to believe the liberal media we would believe that the war in Iraq is worse than the trench fighting in WWI. But of course we know that is not true because we have soldiers from Iraq to testify otherwise.

A glorious day will dawn on Iraq when they are governed by a man of their choosing.

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No, I am saying that it isn't chaos.

So do you have a word to describe what you are calling it besides 'not chaos'?

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You're saying Iraq is stable?

No, I am saying that it isn't chaos.

Iraq is indeed free from Sadaam Hussein and his brutal policies. However, do you honestly think that Iraq will unite behind a president/prime minister. I don't see it happening. There are too many different religious/ ethnic groups in Iraq. What will happen if a Sunni is elected to office? Will the Shiites respect and listen to him? I think not. Iraq is still divided and I don't see a solution in sight.

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This of course causes the reader to think that they were killed in an attack because Iraq is such chaos. This of course is not true,

You're saying Iraq is stable?

The day I will think that Iraq is stable and not in a mess is when they set up some type of free government (not necessarily a democracy if Iraq cant work under it) and people aren't being killed everyday. It will be when I dont see American contractors on the T.V. kidnapped and begging for help. When the President isn't asking congress to sign another huge check. When the Green Zone, or "Safe Zone" isn't the most violent place in the country. Are the election positive, YES. I have nothing against them but today's violence is terrible. People getting a say in government is great. Violence over it is terrible.

so far the main concern for the election is fear more than the candidates and other election nittygritty
..there was a report of CNN saying that even the police men are scard to go out on election day....
so lets see what happens when iraq goes out to vote..pray its not more bloodshed n voilence....

it is true that the insurgency is relatively small. only around a thousand are in US custody. however, it is hard to say that Iraq is entirely stable but yes successful elections will definitely be a good sign toward increased stability.