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Pie
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Registered: July 09, 2002
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Look at this. Originally written at Mad Ogre. Interesting...



Nov 20th, Wednesday: ADS, Applied Digital Solutions is the company I mentioned earlier in the year. They make a computer chip that is able to be implanted under the skin. This has the ability to store information that is accessed with a "Reader" device that scans the chip and reads it's return signal. Such information can be used for probably a great many things... but it's main use is basically as an ID tag. Permanent dog tags if you will. Your name, social security number, medical history, employment history, credit history, and even as a pass over credit card. Truly the mark of the beast if you take the bible to heart. I for one hate the idea, and hate the company for doing it. But if the bible is right, then this technology will grow. That means this company will grow. They are pretty much flaunting this fact by going against the FDA's recommendations (read "Orders"). They are doing something the FDA told them not to do and when confronted they say "No We Didn't." Nice. BTW, this technology is already in use in horse racing to ID horses. Mandatory at the bigger race tracks.
Registered: May 03, 2003
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i know, ive read it over and over
i was being a smart ***... so sorry... damnit there i go again
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iluvjp, it's not going to be easy to explain that - well, sorta.

I was always told, and I pass this along to anyone who's interested and wants to learn more, to study the book of Daniel.

If you can grasp Daniel, (read summaries of it if you like) then you can pretty much start to figure out Revelation - like, the beast coming out of the sea of 10 heads, with seven horns, etc.

Specifically, it allllll goes back to Daniel's Vision he had when Nebucd - whatever his name is lol.

So, yeah. If I find a link or three, I'll post them. It's good that you're asking questions though.
Registered: May 03, 2003
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it's been around for a while.

don't put one in you then. dogs have them, alot of military personel have had them.

they can do much the same with iris scanning or even more with blood tests.

mark eh?

i have a mark on my left hand... ohhhhhhhhhhh
Registered: April 05, 2003
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I believe that the rapture will occur before the seven years of tribulation.

Bush, I was wondering, why do you think the antichrist will be from eastern europe? Just wondering. Wink
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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Damn, you Christians are gullible..
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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Well joey, you may not think that the rapture will occur befor the judgements, but the commentaries I've studied show me that it will. It is my personal belief and you are free to have yours, but to call it a lie is a bit strong.

"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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I pray to The Lord God that all the people being deceived by this Left Behind Pre-Trib "rapture" will wake up and realize that uh, they're being deceived.

However, I'm not saying Left Behind books/movies/tapes/CDs has turned people away from Christianity, but it has just blanketed Christians into accepting this whole thing about some mythical "stealth" rapture before all the "bad stuff" happens.

And that's just not how it's going to be.
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I beleive that the rapture will happen before the rising of the anti-christ out of eastern europe and onto the throne of the world. There will also be many judgements carried out by God, proving to the world his exsistance. There will be plenty of chances for post-rapture non-beleivers to accept Christ as savior before taking the mark. The bible says that once anyone takes the mark, they cannot change their mind. That will be the BIGGEST decision in human history: Eternal Life or Eternal death. For those of who who don't beleive, I pray to Jesus to open your hearts and minds and accept him for who he is, The Savior. Don't wait to suffer the judgment of the Lord. Beleive and come with Christ's shurch in the rapture. And if it come and you don't go with it. Remember this topic on this board, remember you were warned, remember that you heard about this and had the chance to come. If you are left behind, accept christ and endure the judgements knowing that a better day is to come.

"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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That Pre-Tribulation Rapture mess needs to be examined a lot more closely before you go off spouting that Christians don't have to worry.

http://www.leftbehindlie.com


But in Daniel especially, pay attention to detail; the kindgoms that conquered kindgoms and so forth, were all VERY successful economic centers.

Babylon - hello, we can trace all of pagan's roots from that Harlot of a city. It was the economic goldmine of the Biblical time periods.

Cairo/Nile - again, more economic centers.

Rome - especially this one.

So with the Mark of the Beast (666) we can clearly see that, yes, if in fact the Bible stays in a constant pattern, it will be an economic way of marking people.

"...no man may buy or sell..."

The Bible has been predicting this stuff for years, but thank Jesus people are starting to wake up!
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Yes but it also states that before the mark happens, The christians will vanish with the twinkle of an eye. So just remember theres nothing to worry about if you are a true believer.
Registered: November 27, 2002
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Revelation 13:16-17 (NIV): "He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name." Of course, as with all Biblical things, it is better if read in context, but there you go. BTW, smart alek, it doesn't say the computer chip of the beast because when the Bible was written there no such things of computer chips, plus there most likely weren't/aren't words for that in Greek.
Pie
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Actually, I'm not to clear on what the blbie says. Perhaps you could enlighten me.
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Then why didn't the blbie say "computer chip of the beast"?
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Pie, thanks for pointing that out to us.

A lot of Bible scholars believe the "Mark of the Beast" will be in the form of a computer chip, to be implanted under the skin.

It makes perfect sense if you think about it; cars, cellphones, highways even ...they're all going to be able to be tracked using computer chips, etc.


Kinda creepy if you ask me.
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