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Registered: April 28, 2003
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Most Christian fundamentalists are fervent anti-Communists. But can the same be said about their god? Let us open our Bible to Acts 4:34 - 5:11.

It reads: "Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold, and laid them down at the apostles' feet: and the distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.

"And Joses, who by the apostles was surnamed Barnabas, (which is, being interpreted, The son of consolation,) a Levite, and of the country of Cyprus. Having land, sold it, and brought the money, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

"But a certain man named Ananias, with Sapphira his wife, sold a possession, and kept back part of the price, his wife also being privy to it, and brought a certain part, and laid it at the apostles' feet.

"But Peter said, Ananias, why hath Satan filled thine heart to lie to the Holy Ghost, and to keep back part of the price of the land?

"Whiles it remained, was it not thine own? and after it was sold, was it not in thine own power? why hast thou conceived this thing in thine heart? thou hast not lied unto men, but unto God.

"And Ananias hearing these words fell down, and gave up the ghost: and great fear came on all them that heard these things.

"And the young men arose, wound him up, and carried him out, and buried him.

"And it was about the space of three hours after, when his wife, not knowing what was done, came in.

"And Peter answered unto her, Tell me whether ye sold the land for so much? And she said, Yea, for so much.

"Then Peter said unto her, How is it that ye have agreed together to tempt the Spirit of the Lord? behold, the feet of them which have buried thy husband are at the door, and shall carry thee out.

"Then fell she down straightway at his feet, and yielded up the ghost: and the young men came in, and found her dead, and, carrying her forth, buried her by her husband.

"And great fear came upon all the church, and upon as many as heard these things."

PRAISE GAWD!!!

If that isn't hard-core Communism I don't know what is! There was an attempt at equal distribution of wealth which is at the heart of Communist theory. In the above Bible story the Bible god was the KGB who carried out the dirty work of dealing with the nonconformists. Perhaps Marx and Mao were influenced by this Bible episode!

Tyranny needs fear, whether it's tyranny of the mind and spirit or of the person. Both "revealed" religion and Communism are happy when "great fear" is upon all the people.

Even though Communism is responsible for many more deaths than the Nazis, it doesn't come close to the killings brought about by "revealed" religion! Just look at the violent Pass Over horror story not to mention the flood that even took the lives of innocent unborn children!

Well, anyway, that's what the website said, thought that was rather interesting. Conservatism = Bible = Communism? hmmm... never thought of that.
Registered: August 07, 2003
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Can I just say something I meant to say last time?

Let's STOP getting on each other's cases.

YES I'm a Christian. YES I want to reach out to others with God's love. But that DOESN'T mean I want to bash everyone for what they believe already. So... can we just be a little gentler with each other? Please?

I mean, where does anger get us? War, right?

I don't want another Crusade. Duh.

So... Christians, we're supposed to love our enemies, right? People of other religions or no religions, I know you've heard that saying before too, and I know you know it's true because you're human and you're no inferior in mind capacity to me or anyone else. (Specially since I'm a newbie on this board and not even a sophomore yet...) So really, guys. Love each other, okay?
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I agree with Krypto-chan. You interpretted the story all wrong! Ananias and Sapphire lied to Peter - to God - to the whole church. (I'm just backing Kryptonite up, which is why you're reading this twice... *cough*). They said they had given the church everything they had made off the land, but in reality they had kept some for themselves, which would have been fine if they hadn't lied about it in the first place. So... yeah.
Registered: July 24, 2003
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No I can't prove beyond a shadow of a dout that he's true that's where the term faith comes in. I have read about to many things that just happened by chance, and wow he shouldn't of survived that to not believe.
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dude you are interpreting this story all wrong. First Ananias and Sapphira sold all their possestions after telling the apostles that they were going to give all of the money back to God. Anaias and Sapphira did this of their own free will.The couple was then struck dead to make an example that sinning is a sin, and that sin leads you straight to hell unless you honestly confess it to God. How can you confuse this with Communism?
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communism was a great theory... would have worked beautifully if ppl were more honest and harder workers. you horrible pigs! hehe


Communism is totalitarianism. I certainly hope you're confusing it with socialism.
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No, God - my Lord God - will wipe away the slate and start over again, but this time it will be with HIS Christian people.
And what if your god doesn't exist? Cause I know you can't prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that he exist. You just accept that the kettle is black cause some book told you so.
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Joey I am going to NoiseMail you my phone number some day, give it to Jesus and tell him to give me a buzz when he gets here. Maybe we can both go out and turn some water into wine... Wink
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If you want to consider Heaven as sort of a "Communist Theocracy," then I guess you could, because in Heaven, the only freedom you will have is that in Christ.

No worries about "regulating what goes on in the bedroom," because Jesus will purge the population of the sinners.

Now, currently, the law of the land is separate (but still has roots in Biblical Christianity) from the Law of Life.

However, when Jesus comes back, he will set up HIS Kingdom - think of it as a Holy Monarchy. Think of it as "worshipping the State!"

Construe this into the little web that you will, icm, and thanks for posting this.

Because it was exactly what was spoken in my office today.

Earth will not all crumble up as a result of those science fiction beliefs that are out there.

No, God - my Lord God - will wipe away the slate and start over again, but this time it will be with HIS Christian people.

Of course, your hearts will have to surrender in order to believe that.
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Also, the father of Communism, Carl Marx was a Jew.
Wow, that was condescending. What, is being a jew supposed to make him sound inferior or something?
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I thought it was an interesting theory, I never looked at it like that either. While everyone talks of nomads and this and that. Yes there were Nomads, but the prevailing peoples of the times were Warlords and Kings. These people not only took from their people, they made them pay to live, they had nothing...because they were given nothing. And yes...it could very well be a foundation of where Marx got his ideas...from ancient empires.

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whats more... marx was brilliant, i'm so tiered of ppl talking about him like he was some hitler. the guy was quite smart. no government so far has been perfect... communism just relied on ppl being good natured so it failed miserably. ppl... good natured... what were we thinking?


What crack are you smoking? Not once was it relied upon the good nature of people, it relied upon their ignorance to realize they had nothing and they were nothing.

And yes Communists were Atheists, that's why "UNDER GOD" was added to the pledge and what not....it was suppose to "scare" them away.
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The Bible is communists? I don't think so, and to say so is blasphimey.
And how the hell does calling the bible communist qualify as blasphemy (blasphemy is spelled blasphemy, thought you might wanna know, for future refernce)?

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blasphemy - a. a contemptuous or profane act, utterance, or writing concerning God or a sacred entity. b. The act of claiming for oneself the attributes and rights of God.
calling it communist isn't profane and whether or not it's contemptuous is subject to opinion.
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Heheheh . . .ICM, you just can't get ENOUGH of bashing Christians, can ya?
I'm not bashing christians. I didn't even write most of what's up there, i just thought it was an interesting article, geez.
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who the **** cares?!

communism was a great theory... would have worked beautifully if ppl were more honest and harder workers. you horrible pigs! hehe

whats more... marx was brilliant, i'm so tiered of ppl talking about him like he was some hitler. the guy was quite smart. no government so far has been perfect... communism just relied on ppl being good natured so it failed miserably. ppl... good natured... what were we thinking?
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And wasn't co-founder of communism, Friedrich Engels, athiest?
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The Bible is communists? I don't think so, and to say so is blasphimey.

Also, the father of Communism, Carl Marx was a Jew.
Registered: July 06, 2003
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*chuckles* Big Grin

Heheheh . . .ICM, you just can't get ENOUGH of bashing Christians, can ya? Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

The Bible is in no way Communist. That's just the way things were done back then. People didn't really "own" that many things. Most people were Nomads, meaning they moved around from place to place and ate off the land until it couldn't support them anymore; then they'd move on to the next place.

Many things could be said about the Bible, that aren't really true. You have to remember to look at it in context-- at what life was like thousands and thousands of years ago.
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I agree that any Bible is treacherous and evil, but its not communist. Communism wasen't even around back then.
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