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Picture of Bushsupporter
Registered: September 19, 2001
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Once again I, the white male, am denied a month. I want a White History Month and a Men's History Month. Why not??


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

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Registered: November 06, 2003
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Women were discriminated against. I think everyone already knows this. Why do we need a month? Various racial minorities were discriminated against. I think we know this, too. Nothing new, guys. White males have also done great things in the past, and are still doing great things, so why only acknowledge the races who 'have been discriminated against' for their achievements? Every white male has not had a free ride from discrimination either. Up until the latter half of this century, poor white males were discriminated against, arguably even now they are discriminated against. What about the horrible things people did to various groups in Europe hundreds of years ago, various groups that fell into the category of white? What about Bloody Mary, England, and the Protestant-Catholic issue? Just because you're a white male doesn't mean you're free from discrimination. That's a ridiculously ignorant view. I don't need to have a month to feel better about the fact that I'm female. Politically correctness isn't correct...it's a warped view of the world that nurtures a victimized attitude among 'minorities'.
Registered: October 21, 2003
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I think that the reason that there isn't a male history month is because all through history you never really see a majority of males discriminated against, therefore, they never made such radical changes as womens rights and blacks rights and other things.
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Registered: October 30, 2002
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Please, Please, PLEASE ignore my last post, I feel awfully embarrassed because it stops in the middle. Here is the full post:

I couldn't agree more. The politically correct have more than succeeded - they have totally reversed the usual minority pyramid. Allow me to recall yesterday…

7:45 AM: Got on the bus to school. Forced to sit in the back with the other whites. This one Asian kid was staring at me the whole time, unsure if I would commit some crime right there and then - you know the steryotype. Then this girl started inching away from me, whispering to her friend, "What if he starts flirting with me?" To which the other girl responed, "I know just what you mean. Those heteros have to learn their proper place." They hugged tightly and kissed. Then a bunch of other guys started chanting at me, "FREAK! God said Adam and Steve, not Adam and EVE!"

10:00 AM - History. Mrs. Smith started her lesson on Thanksgiving. I hate it when she goes on and on and on about how the Native Americans were oppressed and stuff. I asked her if we would be talking about American colonialism soon. She said yes, and mentioned the fact that the colonists kept slaves far before the Civil War. "For hundreds of years WE had to toil for YOU, Mister!"

12:00 AM - Lunch. More rasicm. Had to sit at this one really groty table with the other white guys. Alfred made a comment about my "beutiful" eyes. "Lay off," I said. He looked away sadly. Another guy - George, I think - looked me straight in the face and said, "Who do you like?"

"Ronald," I replied. Ronald is the guy with long black hair who sits with the other nerds.

"See, George? He's normal! I'd have to agree, Ron is pretty hot," said Alfred.

"No, Chris, you're lying again," said George. "Who do you like… really?"

The peer pressure was too much to bear. "Angela," I whispered. The other guys slowly inched away. "FREAK!" they all yelled. One of them took me by the shoulder tightly and pulled me off to the side. "Chris," he said to me, "I'm worried about you. The Bible clearly states that people with bizzare sexual orientations such as yours are destined for Hell."

"Shut up, will you? Just freaking shut UP! I am who I am and I'm proud!"

"Just don't go crying to me when they get you, Chris. And they will. God is omnipotent, and Hell is no fun."

He kissed me, and walked away in silence.

1:30 - I'm taking this "career planning class." Today we gave presentations about what we want to be as adults. Mary-Anne was going to be a policewoman. Good for her. Alice, a lawyer. Becky, a CEO. Then it was my turn. "I want to be a… be a… a doctor!" The class burst into laughter. Even Mr. Warner had to duck under his desk so I wouldn't see him laughing. "Wouldn't NURSE be a more… um… sensible choice?" The class kept laughing. I sat down back at my desk, red in the face. I'm pretty sure I got the worst grade.

3:00 - Got on the bus for home. Same old story - sittin' in the back, watchin' people laugh their faces off since I liked girls, hearing the word "honky" over and over and over again. What a day. Life's not easy being white… or male… or heterosexual. D*mn political correctness.

4:00 - Logged on to AIM. Alfred was there, under his penname. It was kinda cool that only I knew who xdnormal654x was. "I have a confession to make, Chris," he wrote. "I don't think you're hot. I don't like your eyes," he wrote.

"You don't?" I replied. "I don't," he said. "In fact, I'm a heterosexual. I think Angela's pretty hot too."

"Way for coming out of the closet, man!" But my comment was not representative for the group. Lots of people wrote "freak!" and "hetero" and "sinner!" But in my heart, I knew they were wrong.
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Registered: October 30, 2002
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I couldn't agree more. The politically correct have more than succeeded - they have totally reversed the usual minority pyramid. Allow me to recall yesterday…

7:45 AM: Got on the bus to school. Forced to sit in the back with the other whites. This one guy was staring at me the whole time, unsure if I would commit some crime right there and then - you know the steryotype. Then this girl started inching away from me, whispering to her friend, "What if he starts flirting with me?" To which the other girl responed, "I know just what you mean. Those heteros have to learn their proper place.
Registered: January 30, 2002
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What do you think white people are! They are a minority in all sence of the word. In the overall population of the world to the fact that there numbers when mixed with other colors never equal white. White people have done terrible things in the past and that is just it, people can not let go of the past and it is rediculous. WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT OWE ANY OTHER RACE ANYTHING! Blacks dont have to have a history month any more than any other color or race. The months educate about as much as people who cant read looking at a novel and trying to figure out what it is about. If anything they help increase prejudice and fuel misunderstanding. WE are all created equal none better than the next but people are too lazy or want a free ride and get upset when they cant have it there way. It is rediculous to say that all the pain and suffering in this world is cause by white people and I am tired of hearing excusses, My self no I am not white but I dont understand why we as people cant let go of the past. We need to move on and stop blaming people who are not guilty of anything more than the rest of our races. mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad mad
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Registered: October 05, 2002
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Everyday is white history male day!!


You should be tired of it already. roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes roll eyes
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Registered: February 26, 2002
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kilo~ i wouldn't even bother to explain anymore to Proud, b-cuz he is not going to accept anything, even though you are totally right roll eyes
Registered: March 19, 2002
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You said it's unreasonable to recognize minorities because you don't think it is fair for them to have their own month. Everyone already knows what white males have done in society, so what's wrong with the minorities being recognized? If we made a white male history month, the minority months would be put on the back burner. And when did I say that we couldn't have months for Asians and Hispanics? Once again, you've put words in my mouth. The bottom line is that white males are constantly being recognized, so why should they be given a month? You say to increase knowledge. Well, that's wrong for two reasons. Like I've said before, everyone already knows what white males have done. Second of all, these months aren't about knowledge, their about recognition. So apparently you're the one who thinks it's unreasonable for minorities to have their own month.
Registered: March 06, 2002
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Who ever said it was unreasonable to recognize "minorities"? You are the one saying its unreasonable to have more months, for others, whites, males, asians, hipanics, so are you against knowledge? The more moths to recognize groups, the more knowledge people will obtain.
Registered: March 19, 2002
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"Many people do not know the things done by white males." Are you kidding me? That's what American history books are about. Sure, there's stuff in there about slavery and the Harlem Renissaince, but that just shows black in a negative sense. Last year in my history class, the teacher was running out of time. Guess what unit she cut out? The Civil Rights unit. I'm not saying it's like this everywhere, but it just goes to show what some people think. It was important to her. Like I've said many times before, many months are white male history month. I don't see what's reaonable about letting minorities be recongized for once.
Registered: March 06, 2002
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The point of these "special" months is to give equal recognition to all races/sexes and such. I am not saying ONLY a white and male history month but they would be included with any other minorities with a big enough popuation. Many people do not know a lot of the things done by white males, as well as black or women so the more months the more educated people can become.
Registered: March 19, 2002
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There was nothing in elfes post about white males in history books. I do admit, you didn't say anything about white males becoming the minority. I apologize about that. You still haven't answered my question. What is the point of these special months?
Registered: March 06, 2002
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So am I no longer allowed to respond to a different persons quote other than yours? It appears not as my last post was directed not towards you but to elfes. So next time you might want to clarify before accusing others of avoiding your statements. I also never said anything about whis becoming the minority in my last post ,not dircted at you, I said minorities arenot what they used to as they are becoming more recognized than they have been. So what is your reason to not have a white or male history month? It will do "minorities" no harm what so ever will it? Nope didn't think so.

And yes kilo this post you can answer. Please read carefully.

Registered: April 15, 2002
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Elfe, i dont think bush supporter said anything about hating women, or black people or hispanics. He is just trying to make the point that if you are going to have and support a womens h. m. and a black h.m. then it should only be fair to have a month dedicated to white people and one for males. Just as a preface, in the male h.m. it isn't going to be just for "white males" but for all males. Having a history month for these two groups of people is not about any fear either. It is about the equality of mankind. If there is goint to be a special month dedicated to certain groups of people than it needs to be available to everyone not just to the so called "MINORITIES"
Registered: March 19, 2002
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You keep missing my point or avoiding the subject. Why are there months for minorities, events, etc...? To allow something to be celebrated or recognized. Once again, these months aren't to equal anything up. They are simply to let minorities be recognized not in the context of minorities aren't recognized as much as whites, but just because their accomplishments should be recognized too. Yeah, things aren't like they used to be, but minorities are not recognized as much as they should be. And about white males becoming the minority...for the third time, it isn't about them becoming the minority, it's about them dominating society. Until society starts trying to incorporate minorities more into society, it will not be equal. If you respond to this please stick to the subject and answer my questions.
Registered: March 06, 2002
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I as well love my sister and mother, what does this have to do with womens history month? Nothing so they do not matter. Just because you learn about white males in books does not mean they should not get a month. I am sure bushsupporter does not hate women. Minority does not mean what it used to, they are becoming more and more recognized. Why not let all major "races" if you will have a month in america, that way more celebrations throughout he year.
Registered: April 06, 2002
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!LOVE WOMENS' HISTORY MONTH!

I *LOVE* MY SISTERS AND mY LOVER AND MY MOMA.
All those anti woman men like Bushsupporters are just jealous and hate women. Thats right, kilo
said it well EVERY BLOODY MONTH IS WHITE MENS MONTH.

I THINK THE "CONSERVATIVES" hERE NEED TO ASK THEMSELVES ARE THEY REALLY BEING CONSERVATIVE? Conservative comes from the root word "conserve"
so what are you conserving when you subconciously work to undermine life because of your petty and mediocre psychological fears. So pathetic.
"Conservative" more like "destruct-activo"

nitwits...

Registered: March 19, 2002
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Proud, white males shouldn't get a month because they are constantly being recognized. Like I said before, check out your history book. We live in a society which is geared towards white males. This sometimes puts minorities in the dark. So, to answer your question, white males don't have a history month because people already know about the good things they've done.
Registered: March 06, 2002
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Yes, minorities are sometimes still loked upon differenty. But if white males have done many great things in history then why not have a month for them as well as other minorities? All races have done great things in history but not all have a special month either, what about this? Why only women and blacks then?
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