In africa there are people who starve and hunt animals and eat plants in order to live. Their problem is famine or starvation. Today, in America, a big problem is americans eating too much and being overweight. Usualy, when a teenager reaches the age if 16, they recieve a car. in 3rd world countries, or smaller " tribal " countries, teenage girls or boys usualy get married (( in some places, not all)) or they are already married. Is it just me, but do you think that america and the american citizens are spoiled? just think about what we have and compare it to other countries... i think we are DEFINITLY spoiled.

wow. i totally forgot about this thread.
HOW COOL.
its still going. and. a lot of replies.


Right on.

Wow... almost a year later - but this is an awesome thread.

I was having a chat with another student here (but she's from Singapore) and she says when her father visited, he was outraged that America did not include other countries in their news reports, but said that the U.S. has by far one of the best environmental policies in comparison to most developing countries and was excited to see trees and plants in the city. (Though we all know that doesn't apply to NYC aside from the parks.) And he said we have pretty cheap food (in grocery stores) and housing. So he thinks we're spoiled in those senses. I agreed with much of what she said he thought.

america is definetley the most spoiled country on this planet. while people in 3rd world countries r living on less than a dollar a day, we're spending thousands on a new car to increase global warming and for a new sound system.
tons of people would be grateful for 300 dollars and spend it wisely. this one guy i know spent it on a pair of jeans.
how can we care so much about clothes and cars when people r starving and their biggest concerns is whether they'll eat tday or will they still ahve a place to live tmorrow?

But the silly thing is, the movie is based on McDonald's only. The lawsuits are only based on the emotions people have after hearing about that movie. It's disgusting that some people can actually blame a food company for "making them" eat their products. Not only that, but Burger King has more Calories and fat in its food. Now, why would people go directly after McDonald's?

I find it very sad that Americans are so greedy, we comsume about 90% of the worlds resources and battle obesity, while other nations must battle the starvation and suffering of their people. Something must be done. But what?

The bottom line is that Americans are fat greedy over-consumers and we need to stop.

Watch SUPERSIZE ME to learn about how eating only McDonalds for a month made a man gain 30 pounds.

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but I never thought I would see the day when responsibility for terror was placed on anyones shoulders except the people responsible.

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The people resonsible are the people whoi drive the poor and the opressed into the slaughtering pens.

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How many heads have to be chopped off on Al Jazeera, charred bodies dragged through streets, busses bombed, women raped, children tortured - for you to realize that they are the barbarians, not us? What will it take? How many more Americans/humans have to be killed by them for you to understand the threat? Does it have to be your mom, dad, brother, sister? Or does it even matter to you.

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Terrorism will die with the human race. I know the threat, and live with it. But I do not feel the need to kill for it. You are no better than the terrorists.

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No, I would not like to see the "red sea run with the blood of the innocents" I would like to see it run with the blood of the guilty. Yes, I think that we should kill every last person who supports terror on America. I think we should kill every last person who supports terror on Spain. I think we should kill every last person who supports terror on Isreal. I think that we should kill every last person who supports terror, period.

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then you'd kill half the planet and Americans will be the new Nazis.

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How many heads have to be chopped off on Al Jazeera, charred bodies dragged through streets, busses bombed, women raped, children tortured - for you to realize that they are the barbarians, not us? What will it take? How many more Americans/humans have to be killed by them for you to understand the threat? Does it have to be your mom, dad, brother, sister? Or does it even matter to you.

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Your purpose is ridiculous, you CANNOT eliminate all the terrorism in the world, and Americans have this stupid belief that the only terrorists are in the Middle East. Terrorism is everywhere, and im some cases, it can even be justified.

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Maybe your heart is so hard and you mind so poisoned that you will never understand that this is not about New York, or D.C., or Madrid, or Jeruselum, or Kenya, or anywhere else in particular. This is about the fate of freedom in the world. If the terrorists had their way, would this be a better world?!? I don't think so, and I don't think that you do either.

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We need a bad guy. That's just life. You can't say "Ok, this war will stop ALL the terrorists in the world!" because it's like saying you're going to swim from the US to Australia without stopping. It's just unreal. And when you finish off one terrorist group, another will arise.

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America didn't deserve for this to happen, NO ONE deserves to be attacked by radicals. This is no ones fault but the terrorists. You liberals have always had a problem with personal responsibility, but I never thought I would see the day when responsibility for terror was placed on anyones shoulders except the people responsible.

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That's because the people you are currently attacking and screwing up their country more than it was, did NOT do anything to you. it's like saying, I'm mad at northstar so I'll punch you. It's insane. And don't come to me with the WDMs crap, because first of all, there were no WMDs, and second, the US needs to back off its ego chair and its stupid idea that no one else can have weapons of mass destruction. Why? Because you also make mistakes that take the lives of people. Such as Iraq.

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We will never get over it, we should never get over it.

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Not getting over it has made you more racist, more fearful, even dumber as a society.

No, I would not like to see the "red sea run with the blood of the innocents" I would like to see it run with the blood of the guilty. Yes, I think that we should kill every last person who supports terror on America. I think we should kill every last person who supports terror on Spain. I think we should kill every last person who supports terror on Isreal. I think that we should kill every last person who supports terror, period.

How many heads have to be chopped off on Al Jazeera, charred bodies dragged through streets, busses bombed, women raped, children tortured - for you to realize that they are the barbarians, not us? What will it take? How many more Americans/humans have to be killed by them for you to understand the threat? Does it have to be your mom, dad, brother, sister? Or does it even matter to you.

Maybe your heart is so hard and you mind so poisoned that you will never understand that this is not about New York, or D.C., or Madrid, or Jeruselum, or Kenya, or anywhere else in particular. This is about the fate of freedom in the world. If the terrorists had their way, would this be a better world?!? I don't think so, and I don't think that you do either.

America didn't deserve for this to happen, NO ONE deserves to be attacked by radicals. This is no ones fault but the terrorists. You liberals have always had a problem with personal responsibility, but I never thought I would see the day when responsibility for terror was placed on anyones shoulders except the people responsible.

We will never get over it, we should never get over it.

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It is no wonder peopel think you are a terrorist, no not because of your skin color, but your hate.

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It is not the hate, it is the skin color, the turbans, and the religion.

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but to criticize us for having a 9/11 rememberence day? Insane. Whining?!?!

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Yes, whining...I do not understand how someone in Colorado would care so much about what happens out here on the east coast. people aer insane out here, within twenty minutes of New York, I'm surprised there are not weeping housewives throwing themselves into coffins, like in the Middle East. We need to get on with our lives...It is old, it is annoying, stop. Enough, we are not acting like civilized human beings.

Which reminds me of another thing that pisses me off. You want to "get back" at the people who did this...you are forgetting those people in the planes were on drugs/are now dead...Problem solved. And, for the remaining conspirers, how much death do you want now? Ten thousand, one hundred thousand? Hows about we pull a Nan-King on Bagdad (if you don't get it, look it up,) How many heads have to role for your barbaric need for justice to be quenched, your need for blood to be extinguished? Do we have to make the red sea run with the blood of the inoccents, the women and the children, whose only mistake was to be born? How's about we just line up three thousand people and gun them down, since that is what they did to s? Then we could go down in the history books as what went wrong with the world, and save some money...we are going in that road, anyway. I hope you see one day how foolish your feigned bitterness is.

Yes, I believe America can be considered spoiled, though a few other people on this board don't seem to know the definition. Oh, and to whom it may concern about AIDS-AKA lekuche and others- it is true that almost one billion dollars was donated worldwide, but I am quite sure America had donated around $300 million , which is actually less than what we should be, considering the success of our economy versus others.

Get a life, Bushlicker. She made a very valid point. You're whining, you're become dumber and more racist, and you've overreacted and exploded at the people not responsible for those attacks.

"Not a big deal???" You make me sick. I mean, if you want to have an honest discourse about the attitude that americans have fine, but to criticize us for having a 9/11 rememberence day? Insane. Whining?!?! Apparently you don't see human life as equal. 10,000 people dead is worse than three thousand. I think that your true colors shone through from that last post. Yes, if it had been Canada it would have been a big deal, and it should be. Sept. 11 was not just an attack on America. Terrorists do not just hate America. They support totalitarian theocracies. Where you are not free to practice whatever religion you want - like you can in America. Your blatent hate for America and its people is a clue to your horrible soul, I think. It is no wonder peopel think you are a terrorist, no not because of your skin color, but your hate.

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This nation REALLY needs to get over 9-11, and fast, if it wants to get off the path to the void. (Remember, this is from a person who lives within half an hour from NYC.) It really shows the degree of spoiledness and self-satisfaction of our people that we are still licking our wounds and crying, three years after it happens. Other parts of the world have things like this happen almost daily, and life goes on as usual... We were obviously wrong, so get over it.

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I disagree. It is the stigma that the government imposes on Americans which gives them (or shall I say _us_?) our reputation. Many people are still grieving September 11th, and rightfully so, just as many Russians are grieving the school attack: they have full justification to do so. It seems you're misinterpreting the terms _whining_ and _grieving_. Whining is the disregard for anyone but yourself; a plea for sympathy, if you will. Grieving is the realization of loss and it is imperative for one to grieve before he or she can move on with his life.

Americans, as I have seen, have become more aware of danger and are attempting to protect themselves. If anything, we are less "spoiled" than we were prior to September 2001 because of recent economic hardships; ergo, we are no longer living in an infallible phantasmagoria in which terrorism ceases to exist. I respect the way America is coping, though I oppose the bombastic tools the government utilizes in a poor attempt to influence Americans into wasting more tax dollars on ineffectual causes. Point being that you cannot justifiably blame the American citizens, as individuals, for not swiftly transgressing after September 11th. That is an unrealistic, ideological expectation.

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America isn't coping. They are simply becoming more and more afraid of anyone who is brown coloured. It is ridiculous. We go to the airport, and just because my father has 'Mohammed' in his name, and has a mustache, they assume he must be some sort of terrorist, ready to bomb something.

Disregarding the fact his family is with him (oh my, I must be aiding him! 5 foot two sixteen year old girl!) and that he grew up in England/Canada. America has instilled fear unto itself from something- dare I say- so little? in comparison to the multitude of horrors going on elsewhere. America, without a doubt, is spoiled. Had it been Canada who had been bombed, do you think there would have been such a fuss, the bombings being replayed day after day, the "9/11" rememberance day? And what about those in Iraq, or even Japan, bombed years ago. Do Americans (the majority) ever relect on that, the damage done to other countries as a result of their actions? No.

People are dying as I'm writing, and no one really cares. So yes, you can blame them. The whining went on far longer than it s hould have; yes, it was sad, move on now, America, please.

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This topic reminds me of something that was published my by high school newspaper (crappy thing that it was). They had a section where they asked random people moral questions you know the drill. This particular question was phrased as such "If you had to give up television for one year in order to feed starving children would you?" One of the girls in my AP English class answered no. Of course this was a focal point for much outrage in that class when the paper was published.

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Almost noone would actually follow through with not watching tv for a year, but god forbid someone be honest about it. People are selfish by nature. And in our society, you have to be selfish to do well.

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I sincerely hope this is sarcasm in response to sarcasm, but considering you didn't put a space after your comma or put a period at the end of your sentence, I'm willing to bet it isn't

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Sorry purist but I didn't direct my question to you.

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Thousands of those women die and America just sits back and think we have a horrible country with terrorists and homeless people. In Haiti they are dying so fast over there cause they do not get enough food and also cause of AIDS. They only get 3 meals maximum for a week. We have homeles people but that is nothing like what those people go through everyday. We have AIDS in America but those people get sent to the doctors they do not have very many doctors there in Haiti

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Having enough doctors doesn't mean America is spoilt.An educated government builds a nation properly, most Africa countries are being destroy by the leaders.
It might interest you to know that virtually 1 billion dollars was donated to Africa to battle AIDS last year. where is the money?

This topic reminds me of something that was published my by high school newspaper (crappy thing that it was). They had a section where they asked random people moral questions you know the drill. This particular question was phrased as such "If you had to give up television for one year in order to feed starving children would you?" One of the girls in my AP English class answered no. Of course this was a focal point for much outrage in that class when the paper was published. There were accusations of selfishness being heaped upon her so I did something very uncharacteristic, I actually spoke up. The reason being that their actions were very hypocritical and that the girl had reflected a truth that they themselves were perpetuating. Every day we make the selfsih choice. There are countless charities out there dedicated to the alleviation of starvation amongst children in third-world countries, yet very few of those students ever contributed to such causes. Instead they put that money toward television, toward that 50 dollar pair of jeans, that 200 dollar camera phone. We are provided countless opportunities to feed the poor, but we continuously choose the t.v. I admit, I am no different. It's a hard habit to get over.
It is thanks to our society that we have the benefits and the lifestyle that we do. But it's simply the fate of birth which afforded us this opportunity. Are we to hold it against people for simply being born in a less decadent society? Or should we contribute what we have under the realization that it very well could've been us in their place. I suppose it's all about a lack of empathy on our parts.
I do agree with northstar that its inevitable that there will be a lower class in a capitalist society, however I'm not sure if I understand how that could extend to an international problem of poverty. Is there a connection?
And does our society necessitate starvation amongst this lower class? I don't personally want anyone to starve. I realize that there must always be someone inferior if one is to succeed in this society but does that mean that they should be relegated to such a low level of existence that starvation is a norm?

jesus christ. do you people really think that starving people are a new thing? If you want to live in a capitalist society, you want some people to starve. It is you who are creating it. Become a socialist or get over it.

I have to say this. It makes me want to cry to even think what children and people in the third world countries have to go through today. I can say America is somewhat spoiled..

have any peoples or nations ever cared about the welfare of the poor more than the americans?