Yes, I do believe that americans are spoiled. Alot of americans want and want, and they don't think of others. They pay more attention to having the lastest items like ipods and a cellphone rather than pay attention to the starving kids in countries that whould just be happy getting a meal. I think americans should stop worrying about what they are getting for christmas, and start worrying about those who don't have simple things like a family or shelter.

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You will never see a religious college proffessor, surgen, or scientist: the smart people.

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My parents are both doctors, my grandfather was one of the top psychology professor in the nation, my sister goes to Harvard (and consequently knows many "smart people"; professors and students alike). They are all (except for perhaps, some of my sister's acquaintances) religious. Not in that they believe in the infallibility of their religion, but in that they realize that some aspects of life cannot be explained; aspects which therefore must be reacted to with faith of a certain kind. Are my examples "smart" enough for you? Perhaps I'm mistaking your intent in this statement or am being misled by your usage of the word "never". I suppose I lack clarification on your point. Personally I believe that intelligence recognizes its limits, and thus admits to a certain "faith" in something. A mathematician may not understand the results of genetic research, but he "places faith" if you will, in the scientist(s) who conducted the research. (A flawed analogy perhaps, but all analogies must allow for some disparity). Faith in something is therefore inescapable, no matter what that something consists of. (of course this is merely opinion. I realize that I don't know everything and my opinions may change. However, this is what I believe until someone else logically convinces me otherwise).

I think that America is spoiled alot. There is so much going on in other countries that would never happen in The U.S.A. In India the men are allowed to beat and burned their wives if they do something wrong. The government does nothing! Thousands of those women die and America just sits back and think we have a horrible country with terrorists and homeless people. In Haiti they are dying so fast over there cause they do not get enough food and also cause of AIDS. They only get 3 meals maximum for a week. We have homeles people but that is nothing like what those people go through everyday. We have AIDS in America but those people get sent to the doctors they do not have very many doctors there in Haiti.
Tjis is a poem I wrote about the countries that need our help and their governments help compared to the U.S.A.



Diferences

We wake up to chirping birds and sunshine
They wake up to gun fire and gray skies
Two worlds
Two different places
But so alike
We walk and speak freely
They walk and speak in chains
Bound together by hope
But torn apart from struggles
So alike
Peaceful, hopeful country
War torn, hopeful country
So much alike yet all we see are the differences
Kids, families, and love are things we both have
But Yet so mant diferences


Brandi

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That means people are more educated."

BS. it really doesnt matter what your religion is to be physically smart.

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um, but a good dose of disbelief shows that people are beginning to put moral doctirines under increased scrutiny. You will never see a religious college proffessor, surgen, or scientist: the smart people.

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BS. it really doesnt matter what your religion is to be physically smart.

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BS.

Sure, but when your religion causes you to denounce the intellectual accomplishments of the past 600 years, well then you've got a problem...

**cough**evangelicals**cough**

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That means people are more educated."

BS. it really doesnt matter what your religion is to be physically smart.

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~atheism and paganism is growing.....

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That means people are more educated.

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~people dont know what is right or wrong

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? Bull Sh1t

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~kids killing kids

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This amoung others shows that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Kids have been killing kids since the beginning. Do you think that there were no brothels in the middle ages, and no wars, and people were immoral some of the time? Most of the things you sited are showing just how far we have come from being a society in the dark, scraping out of the glories of the ancient past. but of the rest, I will site a good phrase of lore: THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN.

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~atheism and paganism is growing.....
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And these matter why? It's just another way of people having belief and comfort. (I have no clue what I just said. I'm trying to say something, but I can't find the right words.)

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~people dont value virginity anymore

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Actually, there are STILL a lot of people who value virginity. They're just rarely ever talked about because the media (Hollywood) loves to glorify sex.

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~young teens (under 15) are way too flirty these days

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1. Jamaica, don't take offence to this, but that just reminded me of an elderly man giving the 'When I was your age we had to walk uphill 5 miles in the snow...' speech.
2. Who says they are too flirty? There will always be people who mature and flirt with other people, no matter what. It's not like it's a new thing.

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~people dont know what is right or wrong

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No one ever does. The world is not simply black and white. Instead, it is many colors. And each of those many colors calls out: 'I'm right, pick me!' Therefore, it's impossible to determine right from wrong. It is, after all, just a matter of personal opinion.

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I do not like this either, but killing has been around since the Dawn of Time. (Cain and Abel, remember?) For all we know, kids killing kids isn't a new thing.

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~teens talk back to their parents using curse words

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I believe Socrates and Plato can answer this one the best:

"What is happening to our young people? They disrespect their elders, they disobey their parents. They ignore the law. They riot in the streets inflamed with wild notions. Their morals are decaying. What is to become of them?" -Plato

"Children are now tyrants...they no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize over their teachers." -Socrates

That has been going on for a LONG time, Jamaica.

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but when it comes to values and family, they disperse into groups.

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Could that perhaps be that different families have different values?

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What is this Geminiangel,you denounced atheism

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Originally posted by temptf8:
Compared to some countries, North Americans are very spoiled.

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What country is worse? We are the most decedent country in history. People from all classes indulge, not just the rich on the backs fo the poor, like in Rome or France.

Compared to some countries, North Americans are very spoiled.

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Originally posted by lekuche:
What is this Geminiangel,you denounced atheism

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I sincerely hope this is sarcasm in response to sarcasm, but considering you didn't put a space after your comma or put a period at the end of your sentence, I'm willing to bet it isn't.

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I thought that this thread was about America being spoiled but with the last couple of posts it looks like this thread has changed to something completely different.

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We don't take kindly to people staying on topic around here.

To be serious, though, yes, America is spoiled. I won't get into anymore detail than that, as the YN intellectuals, in hammering the matter out, have said everything I could hope to and more.

I thought that this thread was about America being spoiled but with the last couple of posts it looks like this thread has changed to something completely different. I absolutely agree that America is spoiled. I hate to live in a society where everyone else in the world hates everyone living in that country but I do. I think that Americans have way to many priviliges and rights and they don't stop and realize how grateful that they are to live where they do. I also think that they don't realize what it would be like to live in a third world country where they wouldn't have these rights. This is just my thought.

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"God is as real as I am," he assured me; thus, my faith was restored, for I knew Santa would never lie.

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What is this Geminiangel,you denounced atheism

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America's indomitable image was pierced and the nation came to a complete standstill because we had not known what it was for our lives to be at risk.

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I think you hit the nose on the head there. I do not think that people are so horrified about the tragety, but are more hysterical that the indomiable nation of the USA could be insecure on such a base level.

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The Holocaust was worse, as in, had more victims and lasted a lot longer. I'm not saying "Screw these events as if they never happened", but you can't go crazy over it; it happened already, nothing you can do.

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Yes, and there are many Jews who will deny that it happened because the memories are too painful. Like I said previously: some individuals take longer to heal than others; therefore, you cannot expect a "get over it now and move on" type of rejoinder from a country that was essentially raw to any form of terrorism.

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By the way, cool avatar.

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Thank you.

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Time is not the matter is question; the issue is circumstance. There are still many Jews grieving the Holocaust. If you think you can easily label and facilitate who should simply disregard history because it is convenient, then you need to take a better look at yourself and where your ideals stand

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The Holocaust was worse, as in, had more victims and lasted a lot longer. I'm not saying "Screw these events as if they never happened", but you can't go crazy over it; it happened already, nothing you can do.

By the way, cool avatar.

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Wait, but sept 11th was 3 years ago, the Beslan School Siege was about a few months ago.

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Time is not the matter is question; the issue is circumstance. There are still many Jews grieving the Holocaust. If you think you can easily label and facilitate who should simply disregard history because it is convenient, then you need to take a better look at yourself and where your ideals stand.

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And when was that school attack again? You do not see the spanish throwin gmud in their hair and tearing their cloths because of those attacks in Madrid.

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You're negating my previous post. Most Americans aren't pitching fits and ripping their hair out over September 11th: they are taking steps to move forward while they grieve. Some individuals take longer to heal than others; expecting a complete rejuvenation three to four years after a brutal attack shows lack of perception on the matter.

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Not to be totally cold-hearted, but I am totally over it. Life has to go on. The government would not be able to fear-monger if people didn't act so skittish over the attacks.

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Life does go on eventually. America's indomitable image was pierced and the nation came to a complete standstill because we had not known what it was for our lives to be at risk. That is not the fault of the Americans; essentially, it is the fault of the government: it completely negated factual evidence of a looming attack on our country, and, as a result, many lives were lost. Therefore, you have a discrepancy with the citizens for lamenting their losses?

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Yes, make perfect sense.

I would say yes to this question. In America some of our homeless people live better than many people in 3rd world countries, if you'd like proof you need drive no farther than tijuana. Many of us, even posters on these boards (gasp!), are more worried about what to wear and what to buy and how we will spend our friday night rather than if we will eat today or receive medical treatment. Being spoiled doesn't generally help a person out, the old addage of "you will appreciate something more if you earned it" generally holds true. Sometimes I see our country as a spoiled child, it has it's own toys (domestic issues) to play with but it is more interested in someone else's toys (foreign policy) and it needs a spanking (yes, a spanking).