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just as many Russians are grieving the school attack:

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Wait, but sept 11th was 3 years ago, the Beslan School Siege was about a few months ago.

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Many people are still grieving September 11th, and rightfully so, just as many Russians are grieving the school attack: they have full justification to do so.

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And when was that school attack again? You do not see the spanish throwin gmud in their hair and tearing their cloths because of those attacks in Madrid.

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That is an unrealistic, ideological expectation.

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Not to be totally cold-hearted, but I am totally over it. Life has to go on. The government would not be able to fear-monger if people didn't act so skittish over the attacks.

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As long as Oprahs there nobody is going to get over 9/11

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What does Oprah have to do with it?

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This nation REALLY needs to get over 9-11, and fast, if it wants to get off the path to the void. (Remember, this is from a person who lives within half an hour from NYC.) It really shows the degree of spoiledness and self-satisfaction of our people that we are still licking our wounds and crying, three years after it happens. Other parts of the world have things like this happen almost daily, and life goes on as usual... We were obviously wrong, so get over it.

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I disagree. It is the stigma that the government imposes on Americans which gives them (or shall I say us?) our reputation. Many people are still grieving September 11th, and rightfully so, just as many Russians are grieving the school attack: they have full justification to do so. It seems you're misinterpreting the terms whining and grieving. Whining is the disregard for anyone but yourself; a plea for sympathy, if you will. Grieving is the realization of loss and it is imperative for one to grieve before he or she can move on with his life.

Americans, as I have seen, have become more aware of danger and are attempting to protect themselves. If anything, we are less "spoiled" than we were prior to September 2001 because of recent economic hardships; ergo, we are no longer living in an infallible phantasmagoria in which terrorism ceases to exist. I respect the way America is coping, though I oppose the bombastic tools the government utilizes in a poor attempt to influence Americans into wasting more tax dollars on ineffectual causes. Point being that you cannot justifiably blame the American citizens, as individuals, for not swiftly transgressing after September 11th. That is an unrealistic, ideological expectation.

As long as Oprahs there nobody is going to get over 9/11

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This is not only the middle east, but in Russia and Spain, where there were brutal attacks

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And all over the world in general. But yeah yu need to get over 9-11, your nation is going dumber and more insane because you just can't get over it.

This nation REALLY needs to get over 9-11, and fast, if it wants to get off the path to the void. (Remember, this is from a person who lives within half an hour from NYC.) It really shows the degree of spoiledness and self-satisfaction of our people that we are still licking our wounds and crying, three years after it happens. Other parts of the world have things like this happen almost daily, and life goes on as usual. This is not only the middle east, but in Russia and Spain, where there were brutal attacks. You don't hear them whinning, less than one year after the inicial occurrences. It is also a phycological thing. We thought we were the center of the world. Nobody could touch us. We were obviously wrong, so get over it.

Absolutely. wah wah this, tear tear that. We are so much better off than so many other people in the world.

I personally think we are just major drama queens. Come on, we have Hollywood, home of "the industry" and actors, aka drama queens! Actors are great and whatever, but what are they? Professional drama queens.

Like, gag me w/ a spoon, we are so dramatic!

thank you so much for saying that, Killstar. I totally agree.

america is undeniably spoiled. they blow everything out of proportion when it happens to them, even though it's happening in other countries every day. look at 9/11. 300 people killed, you'd think it was a million. it was horrid, indeed, but people die in other countries every day. america doesn't give a rat's *** about them, yet when something happens to them, everyone is expected to care. spoiled, americans? completely.

to put it simply i think america is rather spoiled. i knew it but never looked at it until the olympics started back in august.

America is spoiled in many ways. Whether it's the food we eat, or the technology easily available to us, we can be a very spoiled nation when you step back and look around the rest of the world. It's a shocker for most.

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[QUOTE]We gave Sadam specific orders to get out of Iraq (and we even kept extending it for the loser) or else we would invade.[QUOTE]

That sounds kinda like what i was talking about Americans haveing a superiority issue! Who are we to give "orders" to any other nation. They are not our servants or inferiors, they are human beings

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...who tend to eliminate the rights of others whenever it suits them. We were protecting our interests by removing an anti-American dictator who possibly held WMD's. (see my Draft post for full explanation) It is the same as removing Hitler, Musssolini, and [that Japanese guy] was. Speaking of those three, had they stopped their conquests and played nicely with the other countries, they would've been treated differently and wouldn't have been bombed so much by the US and our allies (just like Saddam who shouldn't have been such a bully to the Kurds and the rest of those around him).

As to us being spoiled, I say most certainly. For a lot of people (sadly) they don't care what happens in poorer countries. ("It doesn't affect me, so..." or "So why aren't they on the news then?") Disgusting, but it is out there.

I agree that America is very egocentric. No one seems to keep in mind that America will not be a leading world power forever. Another country will eventually come along that becomes more powerful.

i do think that America as a whole is very spoiled, not because we have necessities, but because people are so wealthy compared to other countries. There are exceptions, but on a whole America is much more wealthy than othr nations. And with the wealth comes people syaing they need things like more cars or bigger houses, which are not necessary. America is spooiled because of its luxories.

I do not believe that it is our job to go and develop third world contries. I also don't think it is our job to invade other countries or to try and act as the world plice.

Of course America is spoiled. not only are we spoiled, we think the world would crash and fall down if we weren't. America has the resources to live comfortably, still keep our stock market and have food and cars and houses, and at the same time help other countries but we don't. It's like we fear if the "3rd world" developed they would try to overpower us because we've treating them so crappy for years. True in some places it is their culture that stops them from changing and we should respect that and not try to force our beliefs on them. But culture shouldn't stop us from insuring they have clean water and food and houses. We shouldn't try to impart personal beliefs on them though. And I think other countries realize that sometimes we take advantage of other countries. We'll pretend to go in to help and really that's just a cover so we can take from them. I think America is incredibly spoiled and lies a lot. I'm very patriotic but I don't at all like the current administration and in both the The Constitution and Bill of Rights it says the people should question the government when they think it's wrong, so please con't call me a traitor or anything. Thats just how I feel.

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The American government needs to back off its ego

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This make no sense. Please clarify.

Also, while the American government does attempt to control many other countries, it does not reflect the ideals of the citizens it protects.

America is not "spoiled".

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Well, it is an order. The American government needs to back off its ego.

[QUOTE]We gave Sadam specific orders to get out of Iraq (and we even kept extending it for the loser) or else we would invade.[QUOTE]

That sounds kinda like what i was talking about Americans haveing a superiority issue! Who are we to give "orders" to any other nation. They are not our servants or inferiors, they are human beings, any world leader that would take such lip from an uncouth president like Bush is truely the world's best boot-licker. "specific orders" sounds is as if you were adressing something below human intelligents.