Thanks Marine.

But I know for a fact the Dept. of Energy publishes and reports their own release studies, etc. and I know other governmental agencies do the same - in fact, the Centers for Disease Control have tried to "fine" these huge departments, but can't because well, it's the government.

I'll try to get a hold of the links to these reports.

"There's no such thing as global warming… the sun's just getting, uh, hotter! Yeah, that's it!"

You are right, the sun does seem to be hotter, narrow, but did you ever look at the facts and see that is because the earth has tilted almost 1/2 a degree closer to the sun? Oh, thats right, radical enviromentalists ignore the facts and use their imaginiation, I forgot.

For every scientists you provide me with that says global warming exsists, I will find you a scientists that says it is a myth.

Soo, narrow, perhaps you should get real.

I would like you to give valid proof, Joey, that our government is the biggest polluter in the country.

Anyways, Joey is right, altough his means of atainning the answer are moronic, regulation should not even be a question. When would the government stop once they started regulatin?

The answer to this 'enviromental problem' is keep doing what we are doing. ANyone who says we are bad off is a moron. LA has not had a pollution alert in over 20 years. The Cheseapeke Bay now has fish in it and the holes in the ozone layer are closing.

There's no such thing as global warming… the sun's just getting, uh, hotter! Yeah, that's it!

Get real, Joey.

Well, here are my article(s) about the cement factories:

http://www.elliscountypress.com


Now, if an old neighborhood gets bombarded with a gigantic cement factory two or three blocks down, I could understand where those people are coming from.

But, these factories were out in the middle of vast farming fields - there was a highway slicing through the town, but the plants were situated away from any of the housing developments.

You look at Mexico City and how many people do they have?

Those people weren't all there before the industries, major highways, etc.

There's tons of toxic chemicals in the air, I agree with that.

And look at the industrial cities of Pittsburgh and others throughout the Ohio Valley - massive amounts of industry...

...but tons of people flock to industrial towns to get jobs...

So what do you expect?

Name me one government regulation on a business that has done good.

Just one.

I can't think of any government mandate that has slowed the pollution levels down at all - can you?

I agree with what you said about noise pollution. People should know what to expect when moving near an airport. Convince them in this way, no airport = no local economy/less jobs. See what they'll decide then.
However, the schools must have not made a very good decision to build near anything producing toxic waste. But, which is easier to relocate? A school (that is probably already starving for money under the Bush economy) or a factory? Something does need to be done about stuff like that though.
I suggest you watch "A Civil Action". It shows how a factory's unregulated disposal of chemicals can cause a lot of health problems. Some government intervention is necessary when dealing with things like the environment. Without any regulations suburban America will end up like Mexico City. I suggest you take a look and see how their ecosystem is doing. I'm sure you've heard of how bad their water is due to little or no environmental regulations. The amount of PPM Mercury in their water is incredibly unhealthy. I'm not even going to get into the levels of Phosphates and Nitrates. But there have been babies born without brains and other severe birth defects. So, I guess the toxic-waste producing businesses should be allowed to stay and cause these types of things.
Honestly tell me it is easier for an entire community and the school (as well as all other things: local government, business, etc.) to relocate than some factory.
Maybe it doesnt matter...I guess it's awwww, poor businesses...but when YOU have kids getting sick or dying from some local environmental issue, see how you're opinions may change.

I think you are correct here, in fact we have similar almost hypocritical problems in my area. I live in a pretty rural area that is quickly getting built into a suburb in some parts. All of a sudden we have people complaing about the amount of deer running around neighborhoods and that they are eating people's plants and such, and my stance on it (sorry this is almost animal rights more than environmental) is that you took away their original home, so why are you complaining? You moved in on their territory so you must be willing to coexsist. Thank you for bringing up a point usually missed.

This cement factory situation mirrors that of DFW Airport, considered one of the country's largest airports.

Located between Fort Worth and Dallas, this airport was built in the early 60s (maybe before), before the cities of Hurst, Euless, Bedford, Southlake, Colleyville and Grapevine ever even populated themselves.

So why are people complaining about the noise and pollution?

Duh, if you move near an airport, what do you honestly expect?

Those cities have populations of more than 20,000 residents; some even have 34,000.

Same thing with a local racetrack; out in the middle of cornfields it was - in the 80s - not one person located within maybe, oh, a 5 mile radius.

Yet, after it had been built, the town of Ennis started to grow towards it...

...people complained about the excessive noise.

Again, why do people complain?


This could be applied to railroad tracks as well - the trains are too noisy, blah, blah, blah.


This is becoming ridiculous.