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Registered: January 29, 2003
Posts: 101
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I think the slaughter of millions and millions of human-beings is much worse than the slaughter of animals. I mean think about it. If every one of the 6 billion people in the world decided to stop eating meat the animals would over-take us and then where would we be? I eat meat. I was raised on it. It is mostly on how you are raised.
Compare and Contrast: Holocaust: People were burned in ovens, shot and placed in gas chambers. Animals: slaughtered by knives and guns
Holocaust: Killed because of their religion and because they didn't believe in what the majority of the country believed in. Animals: Killed for food and nurishment for people to survive.
There is no comparison. People were killed just because of the way they were born. They had no reason to be killed.
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Registered: August 06, 2002
Posts: 192
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the definition of a comparison is to show the similarities of to things. Just because farm animals aren't tortured in the EXACT same way as the jews, gypsies, and mentally retarded people, were; that doesn't mean the PETA's comparison is void. Farm animals are forced to with stand atrocities, so perverse that their magnitude is quite similar to the holocaust's. 1) male pigs are castrated ( without any anesthesia) so that they become more docile, and easier to handle. 2) baby chickens's beaks are sliced off with a 1200 degree knife ( again without anesthesia) so that they won't peck each other to death. This type of behavior displayed by the chickens, that the animal agri. industry is trying to solve is caused by such disgusting , and restricted living conditions.
......... My break at work is over. so I have to resume later. but I hope you get my point
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Registered: May 03, 2003
Posts: 777
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please clarify what the **** you mean by no such thing as an omnivor... there is... unless you have some valid evidence saying otherwise
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Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 171
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quote: I'm sorry AMCalhounUSA, but I'm confused. Are we supposed to judge the lion for killing the zebra? Should we think less of the shark for his morbid taste in eating fish?
No. Why would you judge a carnivore? Humans are not carnivores. Nor are they omnivores because there is no such thing. Humans are meant to be herbivorous. In addition, those animals only kill other animals to survive. They don't do in for "sport".
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Registered: July 11, 2003
Posts: 36
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answer these questions for me 1: how many animals are brned alive in giant ovens? (thousands of animals from shelters.) look online... Fur farm animals are often anally electrocuted to death, dissection animals are gassed to death...
2: how many farms deny food, water, and medicine to ALL of their animals everyday of the year? racing greyhounds, premarin horses, animals bred for slaughter, animals tortured in experiments.
3:how many animals are forced to burn their friends, relatives and children in giant ovens just so they might be allowed to live another day? Thousands of animals are killed in front of eachother, cats are gassed in view of living cats... they are incapable of killing their friends.
4: how many animals are only allowed to go to the bathroom once a day for only 30 seconds? Many animals don't even get to go outside, but instead leave waste under their own feet, experiment animals, animals for dissection, fur farm animals, greyhounds, premarin mares have tubes connected to their vagina up until their foal is born (constantly impregnated to keep the hormones in the urine) and then their foal is slaughtered, and the mare is pregnated again.)
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Registered: July 11, 2003
Posts: 36
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It IS mass killing, and not only killing, but a vast amount of cruelty is involved... with most slaughterhouses and farms. I agree with PeTA this time... although, with free range/organic farms, animals are treated well, and then slaughtered humanely... in this case, I would not agree with PeTA.
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Registered: December 04, 2002
Posts: 157
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I'm sorry AMCalhounUSA, but I'm confused. Are we supposed to judge the lion for killing the zebra? Should we think less of the shark for his morbid taste in eating fish? Has the weed committed a mortal sin by choking out the flower? The idea that the animals we eat don't "deserve" to die is utterly ridiculous because their being "deserving" imlies that the animals are aware of their actions in moral terms. If you aren't aware of your actions on moral terms, you can be deserving of neither praise nor punishment. So on a moral scale, no, the animals have done nothing to deserve being dinner; unfortunately for them though, that does not change their location on the food chain.
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Registered: July 16, 2003
Posts: 117
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Registered: December 03, 2002
Posts: 282
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"but this is not one of those times because this is a good comparison."
WHAT??? YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS? it is NOT a good comaprison, it is not even a bad comparison.. there is NO comparison..
answer these questions for me 1: how many animals are brned alive in giant ovens?
2: how many farms deny food, water, and medicine to ALL of their animals everyday of the year?
3:how many animals are forced to burn their friends, relatives and children in giant ovens just so they might be allowed to live another day?
4: how many animals are only allowed to go to the bathroom once a day for only 30 seconds?
i could go on and on.. but i will wait for your answers..
also the nazi were attempting to make the jews(and others) extinct.. how many farms are attempting to kill every cow, chicken, pig,etc on the face of the earth?
"It is sick that another creature should die to satisfy your morbid tastes. These are living things. What makes them less worthy of life than a human?"
you are aware that billions of animals die for your(and other veggie's) morbid tastes as well, BUT in more brutal and painful ways? or do you deny this? do you eat rice? just wondering....
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Registered: March 02, 2003
Posts: 171
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The Holocaust on your plate? I admit that PETA goes too far at times but this is not one of those times because this is a good comparison. So many animals die everyday. These animals have done nothing to deserve this and you do not need their meat to survive. It is sick that another creature should die to satisfy your morbid tastes. These are living things. What makes them less worthy of life than a human? Every year, the average meat-eater is responsible for the death of 83 animals. Multiply this by the number of meat-eaters in just the U.S. and you see how many animals lose their life unnecessarily. Human race cannot advance until its animals are treated with compassion.
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Registered: March 06, 2003
Posts: 195
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those people must have pitiful and depressing lives to write that crap
and besides that it minimizes the impact and the tragedy that was the Holocaust
i can't take anymore nannying
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 41
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now I was offended by this at first, but then I thought, "wait a sec here, this is PETA, they do all sorts of weird and dumb stuff to get attention, but really their just a bunch of whinny rich hippies."
I still wonder how they even have any credibility left,
on the other hand, performing 'drive by burgerings' ( pelting with burgers from a car and then driving away howling with laughter) on the naked PETA chicks that stand outside the local McDonalds with soymeat signs is really really fun.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Upon reading the website I immediatley wrote my congressman and told him how I felt about this horrible comparision.
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Registered: February 22, 2002
Posts: 2066
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Comparing the holocaust to chicken killings does nothing accept trivilize the holocaust. It is sad that someone would do that.
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Registered: January 06, 2003
Posts: 1185
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i cannot believe how PETA is comparing animal cruelty to the holocaust, its is horrible. those 2 things couldnt be more different. the animals arent being killed do 2 their religion, or being put in gas chamber, or anything that can compare what those who where around, around the time of the holocaust had to face.
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Registered: December 03, 2002
Posts: 282
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what.. does no one see how warped this is?
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