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Picture of DrStrangelove
Registered: March 13, 2002
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Anyway, I believe in having faith in things. I have faith that there's not a god because everything can be explained through science or by means of explanation


Ok, then you should have no problem coming up with plausible explanations for these questions:

-Where did the laws of physics come from?

-How was a highly complex DNA/RNA molecule created, along with the enzymes needed for reproduction. And how did these fragile molecules and enzymes survive long enough in a highly hostile environment to reproduce in great enough numbers for survival and proliferation.

-Why is the subatomic structure of the universe so ordered and quantifiable when every trend we see in nature is toward disorder?

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"Well, yaseeherr-God did that!"


Well good thing I've never said that, lol.

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My god lets me question stuff that doesn't seem right to me. She's cool like that.


Then "she" would have no problem with my asking why a God would need a gender in the first place. Razz
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Registered: July 23, 2003
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Rash? Perhaps- you could percieve it that way I suppose. I just have fun with religion and tend to fly off the handle- but... whatever.
Anyway, I believe in having faith in things. I have faith that there's not a god because everything can be explained through science or by means of explanation other than- "Well, yaseeherr-God did that!"
Registered: July 22, 2003
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Lots of people "find God" right before they die, <b>fillefolle</b>. It makes them feel better when they know they're on their way out. Awfully convenient, eh? That doesn't mean we should discount his secular works.

If evolution isn't patently obvious to you, you are guided by blind faith. I don't think god would want you to maintain your ignorance because you are too friggin' stupid to form opinions of your own. My god lets me question stuff that doesn't seem right to me. She's cool like that.
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likeamigrane-

So just because some people beleive in unsupported or illogical things, you choose to ignore the possibility of a God, divine creator, etc. alltogethor? Doesn't that seem a little rash?
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Registered: July 23, 2003
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The problem I have with religion is the fact that it tends to contradict its self and make no sense what so ever. Also- I don't like how people are being held above others. I can understand if there's one almighty big guy or a lot of big guys and girls (gods and goddesses) but Catholics believe that Mary is held above other normal people- and I think that's wrong. I fight and fight and fight discrimination and prefrencing to go to church and worship someone who walked this earth as I have. It also makes no sense that people say- "Well, lookie therr! There's a whole damn book on this- how can you not believe you obviously evil atheist child?" What if I wrote a large book explaining that I was god and that I had rules for my people to follow, burried it in the ground, and it was dug up thousands of years later- would this make me god? Ha. What a religion THAT'D be...
I like atheism because it leaves me to make my own rules and judgements- I can look out for myself, and it's worked thusfar, so I'm not worried. Also, reincarnation does sound really spiffy. I think that'd be neato.
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Registered: December 29, 2002
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Some people just need more proof that there is a God other than what the Bible say. Someone once said to me, "Look around you, all this is the making of God" but what if it's not? What if the Bible isn't the word of God? What if there's isn't a God? What if there is? What if all the religions known to man and woman are all wrong? What if all the religions are all right somehow, someway?

I came to the conclusion that no one knows. How many questions that I ask and how many ways that I try to seek the answers, no one will know. I came to the conclusion that for me it's all what you beleive in and what is the actual truth in the end.

So they believe there is no God and they will find out if there isn't or if there is a God in end. Just like people who do believe in God will find out the same thing.

Or maybe there is no truth and we will never find out. Or maybe what we beleived in becomes the truth in the end. Or maybe there is a God but the Bible isn't the word of God. So people have God all wrong and misunderstood.

Anything could be possible so I rather just believe anything could be possible other than believing one thing.

And if I'm going to Hell for this then so be it.

I might have got a little off the topic here so sorry and I'm shutting up now.

Wow, this thread is 8 sections long and I decided to post in it now. Well, I'm a bit slow.

Bye n Have a nice day
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evolution is against the second law of thermophysics.


ERRR..ARRGGG!!
*tears hair out*

It's thermodynamics! Please learn about your position before you mindlessly repeat something someone else has told you.
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Registered: July 12, 2003
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Ok. I would like to say that before Darwin died he became a christian and that evolution is against the second law of thermophysics.
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Goddess worshipping began decreasing (probably) around the time the Greeks established the first patriarchal system of government.
Then Judaism came around (which is obviously based on patriarchy), and monotheism (a belief in one god). Then they labeled that god as a "he" and thus, the world of patriarch government really begins!
So, women lost their 'power' and became the underdogs, more or less. Historians believe once the story of Adam and Eve was added to the Old Testament, that kind of finished off the one Goddess's religion, and eventually everyone was converted to Judaism, or was killed or something.

The questions aren't a big deal, soccerchick. but if you want, it'd probably be easier just to IM or Email me.

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Registered: July 13, 2003
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rito: lol! But wait a minute... How come now women don't have as much power as they did then & how come they don't 'worship' that Goddess any more? If you can answer those questions that would be great... & I'm sorry to keep asking you questions, but I was just wondering...
Always,
SoccerChick13
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no problem...but, a long long long time ago, (in a galaxy far far away...kidding) most people DID worship a single Goddess, and women had alot more 'power' in society (they were equal).
On top of that, the Goddess's primary symbol was a serpent (which is probably why the tempter in the garden of eden is a serpent). Makes me think of how much the religions like each other! hahaha.

-rito
Registered: July 13, 2003
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rito: Thanks for answering my question, it clears a lot of things up. But still God can still be a women...(see how stubborn I am?)
Always,
SoccerChick13
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actually, Soccerchick, i think that when people substitute "he" in for "god", it's because a man was sent as god (jesus...but this really only applies if you believe in the trinity. i think). But i've been told (in ccd, and such) that god "is beyond all human categories"....so i think the pronoun is to just make the writing more readable or something Wink

-rito
Registered: July 13, 2003
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DrStranglove thank you for anwsering my question! My fam. believes in God b-cus it's written in a book... & they don't respect my beliefs(which is atheist(did I spell that right?)... & why does God have 2 be a man not a women?(just askin)
Always,
SoccerChick13

Damn I'm bored... Do I even have a life...? Nope quesse not...Sorry just talkin 2 myself...
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Registered: February 27, 2003
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I am an athiest because,I am being raised one,and because I have a very hard time believing that out there some where is a man running the world. And speaking of "man running the world" it really bugs me that it's a man not a woman!! Sorry,it just does! I can't explain everything like people who have a god can,we live in a mysterious world in a mysterious univers. I appreciate that there are things I can't explain and I look forward to trying find the explanations. Also,if there was a one true god,why are there so many religions that are so different? I can't really explain it,it's too late and I'm tired!!
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Matt (an athiest friend) wishes to say....

I'm athiest because I believe in our science. I don't think there is a special afterlife for humans....I mean, a leaf just decomposes, and thats that. Why should we be any different? No gods or anything can control my life, i can think on my own!!!!

Me (Currently a christian)...

I believe in some sort of higher power cause i think there are things we just don't need to know now. We should do good here because that's whats gonna get this world to where it needs to be. We should not do good "to get into heaven", as if thats your only incentive. I think people are responsible for miracles, as well as murder. We can do stuff on our own too Wink

-rito and matt
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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Are you ppl just believing in God b-cus it's written in a book?



Personally, i do not rely on a book for reasons. I believe there is enough evidence to suggest the strong possibility (if not probability) in our science. Anyone who relys on a book is, in my opinion, cheating themselves out of a real reason.
Registered: July 13, 2003
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Hi,
i'm suppose 2 be Christain & Catholic... I don't beleive in God b-cus he took my Mom away & Grandma at a really young age & it's not fair & were is the proof that there is a God? Are you ppl just believing in God b-cus it's written in a book?
Later,
SoccerChick13
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Registered: April 28, 2003
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I'm a psuedo-southern baptist. I'm really deist at heart. But all this will change when I leave for college.
Registered: July 17, 2003
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I guess I'm an atheist. I haven't devoted any time to thinking about whether there is a god or not. I don't see how it really affects me. Whether or not there is a supreme being doesn't matter to me.
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