I had someone well-versed in Hebrew tell me there is not a "j-sounding" letter in the Hebrew alphabet.

So therefore, the name "Jesus" would not - according to this friend - translate into a Hebrew word.

Now God is referred to as Yahweh, and Jesus as Yeshua, but hardly any scholars refer to him as Jesus Christ.

Hmm.

Very interesting I think, and if anyone knows about languages, please feel free to inform us - as well as me, especially.

It brings me back to thinking more like the Gregorian and Hebrew calendars; the Gregorian calendars are considered "secular" because it was created by Catholics or something...not sure of the entire history behind it, but that's how we Americans get Sabbath on a Sunday, when in fact it's reserved for a SATURDAY.

Eh.

Half the bible is in greek too

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Hebrew names such as Joshua, Jehoshua, and Jeshua are simply linguistic variations of Jesus.

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No, the names Joshua,Jeshua, etc. came before Jesus. And the name Jehoshua IS the name for Jesus, that's his REAL name in Hebrew (actually, it's Yehoshua because there's no J in Hebrew).

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Yes, another man, before Jesus (the Messiah) was named Jesus. I know that the name Jesus or Yeshua is important, but I think that the most important part [at least for Christains] should be His title... Christ. He is the Christ, our Messiah and King, and that's what matters, isn't it?

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Well first of all, Y'shuah isn't a name for Jesus for us, b/c we don't talk about Jesus- it's a very respectful name for G-d and it probly was b4 Jesus (the "messiah") came along. Secondly, i said that I'm Jewish, and, since u were talkin 2 me, no, that isnt wat matters, because Jesus doesn't really matter to us except that he made all these people Christain and now we're a minority. And to us, he isn't our Messia because we don't believe he was our messiah- if he was aren't we all supposed 2 be in heaven now and forgiven, and y are there still wars(and such horrible presidents sry, couldn't resist)? I'm sry if this bothers u but im just sayin wat im thinkin

oh, about the calendar thing... the Catholics have a different calendar, because one of the popes we've had, thought it would be "wise" to move our Easter to a day that didn't conflict with Passover... that didn't really work, but you know how that goes.

... and we worship on Sunday, because Jesus is believed to have resurrected on a Sunday, which caused us to change the day we worship... you know ... something about ushering in a new era or something. That's one I'll have to research more to understand.

lol. mkt16a17 too true about the j names. You know this happens all the time... the translation of names into another language. Like if you live in the US and your name is John, in some countries you would be known as Ivan, it's true. We had to do this as a project in elementary. Some names just don't translate in ways we understand.

Even God's names ... In the Old Testament we call Him: God, Heavenly Father, Lord, I Am ... but we don't usually use Jehovah Raphie, Eliohim (I think i misspelled that, but anyway...) because they don't translate into english "words," because they are "names."

Also, a bit of trivia for you, the name Jesus is also in the Old Testament/Tenakh. Yes, another man, before Jesus (the Messiah) was named Jesus. I know that the name Jesus or Yeshua is important, but I think that the most important part [at least for Christains] should be His title... Christ. He is the Christ, our Messiah and King, and that's what matters, isn't it?

KK, well I'm Jewish, I know Hebrew, so there really isn't a "J" sound, for names with Js they use Ys. Like Jonah is Yonah and Jacob is Yaacov.
But it doesnt matter if you can't say Jesus because Israel is predominantely Jewish and so they arent gonna go around talking about Jesus- it's like someone in America who's Christian goin around talkin about Buddah-maybe you do sometimes, but not often. And they have a sound that we don't have, a hhhhh sound in the back of the throat, like how Channukkah is supposed 2 be pronounced (thatz y theres the Ch sometimes, thats for the sound)

Well now wat i have 2 say 2 whoeva said this:

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Hebrew names such as Joshua, Jehoshua, and Jeshua are simply linguistic variations of Jesus.

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thats wrong. There were plenty of "J" names(except they arent actually J names because they're "Y" names) way before Jesus. YOu know Jonah who got swallowed by the whale? And Joshuah was i think one of the first 12 tribes-so that was in the "old testemant"(thatz wat u call it right?) so that was wayy b4 Jesus

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The Vatican is by no means the upper ranks of Christiandom. It is the hierarchy of Catholism, which is not all Christians.

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Thank you swim for pointing this out.

The pope sure as heck doesn't speak for me; same way with the Southern Baptist Convention, but thanks again for pointing this out.

I tried doing this in earlier posts and gosh, you'd think I killed someone.

hahahaha...aren't we glad leporacy isn't really an issue these days, not like it was.

billy does do his homework...I checked the first 5 sources and they were right on! Then I read the part about the guy with leporacy and had to put the thing back in it's place in my book closet.

It's the same as us Anglo's naming our kids after after saints. Naming a child after someone is a sign of respect to the person. Except for some reason, English speakers have traditionally been afraid to name their children Jesus out of reverence they don't give to the saints, while Hispanics consider it more respectful to name kids after him.

The Vatican is by no means the upper ranks of Christiandom. It is the hierarchy of Catholism, which is not all Christians.

How knows more about God and Jesus that the good people at the Vatican and the upper ranks of the rest of Christeandome? Here's an idea Dauben, take their word for it and stop trying to make up bogus arguements to try to make your self look like the biggest pencil neck on the site.

Hmm.

In John 3:16 we read that God sent his son, whom most call "Jesus," to save the world, and that anyone who simply believes in him will be saved. It does not say that we must call him "Jesus" in order to believe in him. In fact, the Bible gives many names to Christ - meaning many people very well might believe in the savior without believing his name is Jesus.

He's called the "Son of God" (Hebrews 4:14), the "Son of Man" (Luke 6:5), the "King of Kings" (Revelation 17:14), the "Savoir" (1 Timothy 4:10), the "High Priest" (Hebrews 4:14), the "Teacher" (John 3:2), the "Word" (John 1:1), the "Rabbi" (John 1:38), the "Master" (John 1:38), "Emmanuel" (Isaiah 7:14; Matthew 1:23), "Creator" (Isaiah 40:28; John 1:3; Colossians 1:16), "Adam" (1Corinthians 15:45), "Angel" (Genesis 48:16), "Counselor" (Isaiah 9:6), "Ensign" (Isaiah 11:10), "Fountain" (Zechariah 13:1), "Light" (John 8:12), "Morning Star" (Revelation 22:16), "Wisdom" (Proverbs 8:12), even "Melchizedek" (Hebrews 5:6). And these are just a few. Throughout the Old Testament, before he was given an earthly name, Christ was referred to by hundreds of different names.

And even if we call him "Jesus," that's not his real name. In Greek it's "Iesous." in Hebrew it's "Joshua" or "Hoshea," and in Latin it's "Jesu." If his name is important, by which name should we call him? Indeed, if using his correct name is necessary, then no English-speaking Christian could be saved since they don't call him by his real name.

G'night. Nope...no Anne or Anna for a grandma. An aunt named Angelie is the closest I've got. Love, Jen.

ack! gotta log out... gbye jen, talk tmorrow

oh my god, this is not helping my paranoia who authorized this?! who is in charge of putting "jennifer" with "ann"? what crazy person did this? *sigh* at least you live in texas and i live in oregon... thats good.. right?

uh... your gm's name wasnt anne or anna or some such was it? sigh of relief if thats true..

Are you serious? My mom's middle name is Ann too. Now I'm getting nervous.

jen: your middle name is Ann? you're freaking the s*it out of me! my middle name is Anne!!! [and for all you who dont know, my first is Jennifer] im getting really scared right about now.. *looks around nervously* how many jennifer anne's are there? [i know theyre spelt different, but who really cares? my mum's middle name is spelt ann too... [i got it from my grama, anna]]*takes a nervous drink of 7up*

in my chem class, theres another kid named jennifer, theres a guy with my same last name. today, my teacher called on the guy to answer a question, and he said "Mr. * of the male persuasion" it was kinda funny, but whenever he says "jennifer" or his last name, i always look up, tho i usually go by jenn. [dont start calling me jennifer or such! i am depressedwavemaster!!!]

Yup. He has a cross. It's awesome; he lets me wear it sometimes. Heh. I was almost named after one of my grandmothers: Phyllis Vietta or Eleanor Hortense. Thank you Deus for giving me Jennifer Ann. Not that that's particularly relevant...Love, Jen.