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Picture of BillyBarrio
Registered: March 08, 2003
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because like us, most kids these days don't care why their old parents named them what they did...I bet he had a cross around his neck to. Smile
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Hey, I have a Hispanic friend named Jesus, and when I asked him this he just shrugged. He was too busy making out with his girlfriend. I live in Texas; why don't I know stuff like this? Jen.
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hispanics are fast becoming the leading ethnicity of Christianity and the name Jesus is not just a name, it is meant as Jesus. Why don't other ethnicities call them selves that? Because we always associate it with Hay-sues and not Jesus. You'll also notice alot of hispanics have the name Angel...and where that came from I dunno. But for hispanics it's more of a man's name where as for others it is a woman's name.

Now let me mess you up Smile

God in Latin is Deus or sometimes refered to as Deus Ex Machina - active agent who appears unexpectedly to solve an insoluble difficulty.

so where did "God" come from?
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Okay, question: Hispanics pronounce is Hay-suse, and there are a lot of Hispanics named that. So, are they all named Jesus like we think of Jesus, or is it just a name to them? And if so, why aren't any whites/blacks/ect named Jesus?
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If you really think about it the "Je" from Jesus just sounds like a G. But that's besides the point. What does it matter what your God's name? It's not how you pronounce a name that makes a person/god who they are. If someone mispronounced your name would you be any different?
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Hispanics say it "Hay-suse"


No "J" sound in spanish either.
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Hispanics say it "Hay-suse"
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Greek doesn't have a J sound either. Neither does Latin. In Latin it's Iesu. And since the Catholic Church used Latin until the 20th century and the Orthodox Churches used eastern european langueage without J, this means the current spelling of Jesus couldn't have originated until at least Henry VIII formed the C of E.
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Whats in a name!?

Ok my research on this subject.

Hebrew names such as Joshua, Jehoshua, and Jeshua are simply linguistic variations of Jesus.

While the name itself is fairly common, meaning "God's salvation" or "God is my help,". The name at once emphasizes Jesus' commonness - He is born the Son of Man, a man among men - and Jesus' uniqueness. This man Jesus is born to redeem man to eternal life.
The name Jesus was appointed by God for His Son and was so announced by angelic messengers before His birth:

quote:

She will give bith to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.


Matthew 1:21

A foot note in my bible has for the name Jesus:
Jesus is the Greek form of Joshua, which means the Lord saves.

According to prophicy the saviors name will be Immanuel, meaning "God will save".
So both names have the same meaning.

Joshua, and Jesus.

It is interesting to compare these two figures of history
Joshua)led the nation of Israel into the promised land(Canaan)
Jesus)leads the people of God into the Promised Land(Heaven)

Jesus and Immanuel

Isaiah Prophizied more about the messiah then any other. His book by some has been called a Gospel (Like thoughs of Matthew, Luke, Mark, and John, whos Gospels tell the life/Ministry of Jesus) Said this about the Messiahs name.
quote:

Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will birth a son, and will call him Immanuel.


Isaiah 7:14

Immanuel means "God will save"

This name describes the Messiah's NATURE, not his littleral name. We gather this from the other ways Isaiah describes:

quote:

... And he will be called
Wonderful Councelor,
Mighty God,
everlastig father, Prince of Peace.


Isaiah 9:6

So Immanuel and Jesus have the same meaning. thus the same name.
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there's more then that, there are many religions who share many details right down to the date of birth of their Gods...with Christianity. I think what happend is they said hey...if we take the good elements of every religion we currently know of, everyone will follow our belief. If it weren't true, then the church would have no problem releasing those scrolls they've been hiding for so many years. I'm betting those scrolls and the current Bible aren't even close


::cough:: umm... dead sea scrolls anyone? ::cough::
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I think I'll just stick to a Strong's Concordance, because it translates every English word of the KJV into the original Green/Latin/Hebrew meaning.

There's already a nifty little comparison of some Bibles on my website:

http://www.joeydauben.com/Bibles.htm


Interesting to see the different translations and stuff, and how some faiths completely take out words or add books...
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there's more then that, there are many religions who share many details right down to the date of birth of their Gods...with Christianity. I think what happend is they said hey...if we take the good elements of every religion we currently know of, everyone will follow our belief. If it weren't true, then the church would have no problem releasing those scrolls they've been hiding for so many years. I'm betting those scrolls and the current Bible aren't even close.
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Most everything to do with Christianity has been translated, altered, and reinterpreted over and over again. Which in one way makes it interesting to study and guess at the thought process 2000 years ago, and how that thought process slowly changed. But this also makes it completely ridiculous to take the Bible as the absolute word of God. So, are you saying the old British men who wrote the King James Bible were imbued with the power of God himself?

How about who was Abraham?
Abraham came from the east.
The east of the middle east.
(That's Asia)
Abraham. A Braham. A Brahmin.
Hinduism is yo' daddy.
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see, now you are beginning to see the contradictions others see.

interesting subject...I never got indepth enough to find out the exact origins, maybe I can find someone with info.
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