I'm sorry but I don't agree with this. I hate to say this but I don't know about politics or the goverment but I joined youth noise to learn more about it. Anyway, I guess my point I can't really give you guys a good arguement but all I can say is that I feel this is wrong and no one can get me to agree with it. I am not prejudice against gays/lesbians because I happen to have lesbian friends and they know where I stand and they are perfectly fine with it and I hope I didn't offend anyone but this is what I believe except it or not?

Its the same old thing happening over and over. So what if gays want to get marry? If they want to be married then they should be given the right to. They are human...not animals. And sodomy is not the same as being homosexual. I am a heterosexual teen getting sick and tired of people being totally closeminded towards people who are different.

However I will give you that the government should not interfere with our private lives and what we do in our homes. So far, I've think they've done a pretty good job. I mean, its not like they have gone totally Big Brother on us...yet. I am a little wary of this phone tapping thing they are trying to pass in legislature, or were trying to pass.

What a deceptive ****ing title...

If you don't support equal ights don't pretend you're some sort of classical liberal. You hold the same views as a million other people who like to call themselves "Republicans".

Section 1, Point 3 of the Libertarian Party Platform is the statement that advocates "the repeal of all laws regarding consensual sexual relations, including prostitution and solicitation, and the cessation of state oppression and harassment of homosexual men and women, that they, at last, be accorded their full rights as individuals".
If you truly believe in liberty you'd allow them the rights of heterosexual couples, including the right to wed one another.

At one time, inter-racial marriages were forbidden in most states. Even today, Mormons who practice polygamy are subject to arrest. Common law marriages are recognized in many states, while in other states 'anti-cohabitation laws' remain on the books. This is not exactly an area where government intervention has done itself proud.
Jeez..."allow" homosexuals to marry...people should think about that word. Who's going to do the 'allowing,' and how were they delegated the power to make that decision?

It goes against the freedom of religion too, to assume the government can tell a church who it can and cannot join together. What the f**k?

Don't start that crap about "special" rights. They don't have that 'right' currently, they have fewer rights, if they had the right, they would then be closer to equal rights.

And to say that this would legalize ********ity and others is pure hyperbole. The law concerns the union of humans, not horses. Unless you consider homosexuals inhuman (in which case maybe you should be the one not allowed to marry and procreate (and if you can't take a joke you're being way too PC)), there is no way this is a slippery slope into what you describe. Since no dead person can give lawful consent that isn't a problem either.

You have proven you're simply opposed to giving people whose lifestyle you don't agree with, the same rights you enjoy. This is not the position of a liberty loving individual. It's the opinion of some who does want to legislate morality. Someone who does feel the government can tell someone what to do with their life.

I think they should get married and if they want, they could also adopt children.

I think it is about love. I mean when a gay couple gets married, they don't run around the streets saying that they are gay, married and proud of it. They keep it secret and only tell close family and friends so I don't think it's something about being recognized.

Some people don't even admit to being gay or if they admit it then they don't want to show that they are gay in public because they don't want to be recognized by society as being immoral and plain old idiosyncratic. The are actually scared of what people could do to them or think of them.

Kind of sad if you ask me!!!!!!

I theink: They should walk down the streets holding another male or female's hand or kissing. Whatever straights could do, they should be allowed to do also.

It should be equal.

They don't need to prove anything to anyone so I don't agree with those Gay Pride Parties that they have though because it's like they are trying to prove how much pride they have for being gay and they really don't have to do that.

To Me: Dating someone isn't about pride. I don't care about how much pride they have and I don't care how much they show it. I care that they are happy about the decision they made. That they aren't scared to do what straights couples do. I want them to live their life as happy as possible.

That's what I think is the problem, some gays really do believe that they need to prove something to others and they don't have to prove anything. So some gays go way out of their way, just to prove how much pride they have for being gay and they really don't have to do that.

And other gays are ashamed. Others are scared. Others are new to this. Other don't want to admit it. Other think they are so different and they feel bad about this

It's hard for them so some yes MAYBE they do want to be recognized or show how much pride they have, I don't know, I'm not in their mind. However, I do know that there are some who find this hard and the last thing they want is to be recognized.


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I may be shifting righter these days and I have seemed to notice it myself, but I think it is the reactionary move I am taking as a result of the Liberal idiots up at college. Oh well. What exactly do you mean though?
Not to get off topic however; I have a veiw of homosexuality as more than a lifstyle. The other day I was watching some news and noticed a group of gays in a pro-choice march wearing shirts that said *****s for choice. It was then that I realized that gay activist hoped to legitimized their deplorable lifestyle by promoting a veiw of sexualit that is completely severed from reproduction. You see, Homosexuality has become more than a lifestyle as it was in the days of the romans and greeks, instead it has become a sort of ideology.
Gay marriage bring up an interesting topic because I feel gay activist push for this is less about love and more about acceptance of a lifestyle and beleif system. If the government is to recognize them, that will legitimize them and further the label "homophobia" which I find insulting. The gay activists would have you beleive that a person with moral objections to the gay lifestyle does not feel that way because of himself, but because of some sort of a psychological disorder. This is very dangerous.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.

Bushsupporter, I don't know about you, but I've noticed a seismic shift to the "right" on YouthNOISE in the past month, at least.

I dunno, but I think people are starting to get the Big Picture.

And I agree with you on the benefits to being married. The gays claim it's all about love, and that's great, but what's really behind their desire to be recognized?

I'd also like to see how the tax structure is laid out after a ****ie gets married; there are more taxes to be paid and less money you can write off for being married. Hmm, could there be a gay loophole (lol) once a same-sex union is recognized?

I hope not.

Marriage between a man and a woman has been a sacred covenant throughout history, but now gay activists say that we should respect their relationship as much as one between a man and a woman. They say that the only thiung that should matter is love. This is clearly not true. I beleive the gay activist to want the special things that come allong with marriage more than the actual HOLY union itself. Things like tax credits and benifits. That is what they want.
But if we allow this lifestyle in the door, then what is to stop others from coming in. Things like incest, polygomy, *******ity. They all love the people/animals they are involved with, right? So clearly that is not an argument.


"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.