i suggest doing your research more carefully on the topic of sweatshop labor and child labor, bauhas.

i'm not going to say that walmart doesn't use sweatshop labor on it's clothes, or that they treat their workers unfairly. but i will say that there are so many other companies out there who do the exact same thing:

GAP (including gap, gap kids, baby gap, old navy and bananna republic), J-Crew, Abercrombie&Fitch, and Ann Taylor to name a few, all use sweatshop and child labor. A worker at an Abercrombie & fitch fatory said that the worker's conditions were so horrible, the rats wouldn't sleep there. the toilets never worked, the water was contaminated and the place was infested with cockroaches.

Tyson Chicken hires migrant farmworkers to help harvest their chicken. the plant in charlottesville virginia has three floors; a basement for storage, a ground floor for production, and a third floor just for sleeping quarters. the floor is a good fifty feet from the ground, and there are no windows, fire escapes, or any other type of entrance or exit, save the door locked every night. the reason that they do this is because the workers are illegal immigrants, and if they are found by the authorities, the company will be held accountable.

all i'm saying, bauhas, is that you should research your topic more thoroughly to be justified.

You know what, bauhaus, Wal-Mart is the greatest thing that ever happened to people in the lower income bracket. Think about it. Are you going to tell the poor that they will just have to go a few days without food every so often so that the evil capitalist Wal-Mart will go out of business? Sure, Wal-Mart isn't a wonderful, philanthropist company...but look at it through the eyes of the people who have to choose between buying their children medicine or food, who end up eating "ketchup soup" once a week, whose financial problems affect their survival, not comfort or entertainment, unlike the middle class I assume you come from.

the only foreighn cars i would ever buy would be european, but im still sticking to domestic

I drive a mercury and an acura, my mom drives a volvo. they all have their share of problems. I think we are going to stick with german cars from now on.

Once again, I find myself agreeing with jazzeykitten. I think a lot of Americans, myself included (yes, this is a hasty generalization) are LAZY! We want it quick, we want it easy, we want it NOW! That's why we have so many fast food restaurants. Instead of focusing on a cure for deadly disease, we waste our time trying to find the quickest way to look up a phone number, or cook a meal. It's kind of sick.
I take pride in my country for most of what it stands for and I'm so thankful to have freedom of speech and so many other rights!
But any time I have bought an "American-made" product, it's been crap. It's made cheaply. It's upsetting that we have to rely on imported products when we live in such a large nation.

American made cars are s**t. I drive one. I'll get a foreign car next time. (I wonder who's going to call me "un-american" first...)

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i try to support American made products too like when i start to drive and look for a car i want to get an American car but it gets so hard because at least one part of anything elcetronic, or automobile or any good like that (i guess any product excluding food) is made somewhere else.

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i dont shop there because everything there is crap, i try to support american made whenever possible.

I will never boycott Wal-Mart. A lot of families go there because they can't afford higher prices and it's easier for them to buy clothes and other items for their kids.

Besides, Wal-Mart kicks a$$.

no true patriot would post the flag of a group that tried to overthrow the USA. you may disagree. i'm not calling you unamerican, just stating that our idea of patriotism must differ. but as far as wal-mart goes, I have many immigrant friends and lot's are employed at wal-mart. i feel that by boycotting i would be hurting the largest employer in the US, and one of the largest employers of foriegners. one of my friends was working night shift cleaning toilets for minimum wage untill he was hired by wal-mart. now he gets paid 1.50 more than min. wage, works days, and gets to wear a uniform(that may not seem like a great honor to you suburban americans, but wal-mart is a symbol of american prosperity and he is proud to wear it). I would consider directing my spending elsewhere if they were poluting or abusing thier workers, but i would never boycott a company for giving people the dignity of work. If you minimize the dignity of work than you need to experience the ghettos of our big cities. you need to volunteer in a shelter, not a red cross shelter but a family shelter where you see the direct impact of joblesness.



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if realamericanhero gets to join then I will too.


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Whoa... I dont think a vote was ever taken on you entrance into our Great Coalition. For the record, Realamericanhero is not a part of our coalition

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I love walmart


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ok great point, where is the proof that walmart knowingly uses sweatshops?!?!?!

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Over half of the nation supports them, otherwise they wouldn't of made it to where they are.

hold on a sec. I disagree with the premise that walmart knowingly uses sweatshops. It is against the law, so there is one point against it. And yes, in a way, someone did make them go over there. The unions and the government make companies go elsewhere. The unions' extreme demands and the governments taxes force companies to leave. The way to get them back is not to raise taxes but to cut them. Walmart continues to be punished by the selfish liberals and the moneygrubbing bereaucracy. That is why I support them, because half the nation doesn't.

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yet every retail store in the country does this and you seem to only target walmart.

it just shows you how liberals target walmart.

Yes, it is partly Wal-Mart's fault. I don't think the they madeWal-Mart come over there. Wal-Mart is selfish and all they care about is cheap labor and sales of their cheap products.

limbaugh (idk how to spell his name) made an excellent point:

america's economy is a supply and demand economy.
communist economy is command. it tells you what you can sell how you can sell and when you can sell.

you want to tell walmart what they can sell when they can sell and how they can sell---communist

walmart tries to be more competitive and sells goods at a lower price---which is one of the things America stands for.

when you compete, competitors try to make a product better then their opponent.
if there is no competitiveness, we willnot advance in the quality of products and new innovations on manufacturing and selling goods will cease to exist.

if you were in lets say china and you wanted to start a pen business.
if there already is a pen business, they will tell you no we already have a pen business.
well that pen business that was already there will not make better products and they can charge however much money they want for their product because there is no competitveness and no one pressuring them to lower prices or make better products.

this isnt walmarts fault!
in fact if it wasnt for walmsrt, they probably wouldnt have work at all.
you cannot blame walmart for the communost china.
they sell the products at a lower price to the American public and that is all.