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Picture of clpo13
Registered: November 05, 2004
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I see these "illegals" all over the place. I live in Washington. Migrant workers are a fact of life up here. Yet I still have no problem with them. Many speak passable English. And they only work in the farms. They don't bother me. I don't bother them. It all works out. Besides, in Washington, no white person ever wants to work in the fields. And here are hundreds of migrant workers willing to work for less than minimum wage. So by giving them jobs that no one else will take it seems to me that the farmers are actually doing the migrant workers a service.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by panterayall:
They are saying that we stole the lands from them. Well i dont think we stole the lands from the migrant workers that our coming across our borders. They were not even born yet so how could we take something that was not theirs to begin with.

The "stolen land card" is played all the time by minorities. I have a solution once and for all: We'll fight you for it.


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Registered: March 03, 2005
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you never had a problem with them clpo because you never had to work with them most likely when you have to work with them on a daily basis it starts to get ****ing nerve racking


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Registered: March 03, 2005
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and as far as what the minutemen are doing i say right on! when you see pictures like these http://daylaborers.org/html/photos.htm it shows you just how bad our immigration policys are. they are like ****ing filthy animals, they leave a trail of trash in the desert, and they hate america.(yes a large percent of them just hate america they are just coming here to get money they dont care about our country, ill show you anti american rallys that illegals have started if you want) they will always vote for whoever is going to increase minimum wage and welfare.



They are saying that we stole the lands from them. Well i dont think we stole the lands from the migrant workers that our coming across our borders. They were not even born yet so how could we take something that was not theirs to begin with.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by clpo13:
I've never had any trouble with Mexican immigrants and I used to live in southern Texas.

Its very sad that there's no problem with them in Texas, but a huge problem with them in Minnesota.


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Registered: November 05, 2004
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If you don't like it, move. Or fix it. But stop your b*tching about it. I've never had any trouble with Mexican immigrants and I used to live in southern Texas.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by panterayall:
illegal immigrants are stealing U.S. jobs and there is nothing we can do about it. I work in construction part-time and illegals hired over citizens all the time, not just whites hispanics also. They are not just laborers either. There are illegals who are trying to get the jobs of master carpenters and finishmen. The standard pay for a residential master carpenter is 27-40 dollars, more depending upon where you work. Illegal immigrants are willing to do that job for about 5 dollars less an hour. They are taking away the jobs from citizens who work just as hard but wont work for that little amount of money. And what really pissess me off is when a illegal becomes a foreman and then hires an entirely mexican non-english speaking crew. I was trying to get some of these guys to help me set a stud right and they didnt even know what the hell i was saying. Pretty soon all agriculture work and construction will be full of illegals. I think our situation is rediculous.

You're exactly right. I had to take spanish this year so I could get in and out of Taco Bell in less than half an hour.


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Registered: March 03, 2005
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illegal immigrants are stealing U.S. jobs and there is nothing we can do about it. I work in construction part-time and illegals hired over citizens all the time, not just whites hispanics also. They are not just laborers either. There are illegals who are trying to get the jobs of master carpenters and finishmen. The standard pay for a residential master carpenter is 27-40 dollars, more depending upon where you work. Illegal immigrants are willing to do that job for about 5 dollars less an hour. They are taking away the jobs from citizens who work just as hard but wont work for that little amount of money. And what really pissess me off is when a illegal becomes a foreman and then hires an entirely mexican non-english speaking crew. I was trying to get some of these guys to help me set a stud right and they didnt even know what the hell i was saying. Pretty soon all agriculture work and construction will be full of illegals. I think our situation is rediculous.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Reactionary,

I have to disagree with you on Savage. I think he is pretend conservative. Most of what he says doesn't even make sense. I have XM, and they had a right-wing talk channel that Savage was on and he was replaced by Michael Reagan (Not as liberal as Savage, but still not really a conservative)

I hate minimum wage laws, they drive down wages for menial workers. But we should enforce the laws we have. Enforcing laws is what makes us a civilized country Bauhaus.

You're probably right. I didn't know about the minimum wage laws. I'm against those as well. I guess I'll just stick with El Rushbo.


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Registered: September 07, 2002
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Originally posted by marine16:
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For every illegal that comes over the border with Mexico, the Mexican government should owe us a barrel of oil.


Reactionary, that was Micheal Savage's idea in his new book; Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.


Yes indeed. He's the man that should be running this country.


For every Michael Savage comment thats posted. Michael Savage should have to destroy one of his books. :-)
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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But we should enforce the laws we have


Here we go. Logically, as a conservative you'd be fighting against minimum wage laws, not just hating them yet upholding them.


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Registered: February 22, 2002
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Can you not understand basic English clpo? If you can, I suggest reading my last post again, and then editing your last post on this topic.


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And here I thought conservatives were less adamant about laws regarding the economy. I thought that was the liberal point of view, to uphold minimum wage laws. There may be hope for you yet, marine.


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Registered: February 22, 2002
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Reactionary,

I have to disagree with you on Savage. I think he is pretend conservative. Most of what he says doesn't even make sense. I have XM, and they had a right-wing talk channel that Savage was on and he was replaced by Michael Reagan (Not as liberal as Savage, but still not really a conservative)

I hate minimum wage laws, they drive down wages for menial workers. But we should enforce the laws we have. Enforcing laws is what makes us a civilized country Bauhaus.


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Registered: March 09, 2004
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People who hired immigrants would be forced to raise their wages to atttract citizens. Keeping out illegals will help enforce the minimum wage law and will prevent workers from getting screwed.



Are you actually sugesting sharing the wealth? HOW DARE YOU MARINE. HOW DARE YOU. this is a capitalist society, I will not stand for this. Inforce min wage law?? wtf? are you even a conservative? I cant even believe you agree with a min wage law, the min wage law should be abolished.


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Registered: May 07, 2005
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Originally posted by marine16:
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For every illegal that comes over the border with Mexico, the Mexican government should owe us a barrel of oil.


Reactionary, that was Micheal Savage's idea in his new book; Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.

Yes indeed. He's the man that should be running this country.


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Registered: December 11, 2003
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You're angry because they steal you job. Well, here's a tip; work harder at your job.


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Registered: February 24, 2003
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Is this a jab at white people? Because last time I checked all fortune 500 companies were white.

1,What do you mean by saying a company is "white"?Do you mean it's the white people that are doing the actual labor?
2,When was the last time you checked?It must have been 10 years because 10 years ago there were 149 Japanese companies out of the 500.
In 2004,82 companies on the list for fortune 500 are Japanese,16 companies are Chinese.


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People who hired immigrants would be forced to raise their wages to atttract citizens. Keeping out illegals will help enforce the minimum wage law and will prevent workers from getting screwed.

Yeah and more more factories will come to Asia.Nobody will do the "dirty jobs".Families can't afford to fix the roofs.Things become expensive and jobs flee abroad.


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Registered: January 03, 2005
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Illegal Immigrants are stealing US jobs.


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Registered: February 22, 2002
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For every illegal that comes over the border with Mexico, the Mexican government should owe us a barrel of oil.


Reactionary, that was Micheal Savage's idea in his new book; Liberalism is a Mental Disorder.

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Now I work at a new place and its pretty much white, and its pretty layed back.


Is this a jab at white people? Because last time I checked all fortune 500 companies were white.

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Imagine what would happen if all the mexicans were gone?


People who hired immigrants would be forced to raise their wages to atttract citizens. Keeping out illegals will help enforce the minimum wage law and will prevent workers from getting screwed.

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How come whites and blacks are the only ones on talk shows complaining about how screwed up their families are, or who cheated on who.


This is an outrageious claim. Are you telling me Latinos and Asians are morally superior to whites and blacks?


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