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Registered: October 18, 2004
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Al Jazeera . Do you think it is a true Democratic mouthpiece or Osamas private channel.
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Registered: June 30, 2005
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my comment does not go to al jazeera... given that i am an Arab, al jazeera is the closest thing we have to a open channel if you like. Moreover, i truely disrespect the people who have refered to arabs as ignorant and easily manupilated. these people are themselves biased and ignorant given that they throw such negative sterotypes, not only do they have no knowledge about arabs and their intellect, they verify how shallow minded some people can be
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by Bushsupporter: quote: Yeah, Al Jezeera is JUST like Fox News excepth that Fox doesn't show beheadings. Fox's "fair and balanced" is a Dem. and a GOP on a show. Al's is a nut case and a clinically insane person. They had one guy blame the Tsunami on, wait for it..... The US and Isreal and another who disagreed and said that it was Allah punishing the Christians. Allah killed 150,000 Muslims and 500 Christians. OOOPS, guess someone Gave Allah the wrong coordinates.
They are not just bias, they spew anti-American and antisemetic propaganda to a mass of ignorant Arabs who hate America and Isreal because their dictators tell them lies.
nothings evr that black and white . Have you said that before . Cant believe I missed it .
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Registered: September 19, 2001
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quote: Yeah, Al Jezeera is JUST like Fox News excepth that Fox doesn't show beheadings. Fox's "fair and balanced" is a Dem. and a GOP on a show. Al's is a nut case and a clinically insane person. They had one guy blame the Tsunami on, wait for it..... The US and Isreal and another who disagreed and said that it was Allah punishing the Christians. Allah killed 150,000 Muslims and 500 Christians. OOOPS, guess someone Gave Allah the wrong coordinates.
They are not just bias, they spew anti-American and antisemetic propaganda to a mass of ignorant Arabs who hate America and Isreal because their dictators tell them lies.
"Freedom is not Free"-Korean War Memorial, Washington DC.
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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I know I am bringing up a dead thread but there is this book about Al Jazeera come out written by Hugh Miles . This is just a review , But it explains how it all started. In one sense the story of Al Jazeera began in 1995, when Sheik Hamad bin Khalifa al-Thani overthrew his father and became the emir of Qatar, a tiny Persian Gulf state that sits on one trillion cubic feet of natural gas. As Hugh Miles puts it in ''Al-Jazeera,'' his fascinating account of the world's most notorious television station, the new emir wanted Qatar to be like Switzerland, ''rich, neutral and secure.'' A television channel was part of the plan. The emir was helped by the failure of another experiment: in 1994 the BBC had agreed with a Saudi-financed station to supply a news service in Arabic; the partnership collapsed in 1996 over Saudi objections to the content. It left 250 BBC-trained journalists and auxiliary staff members out of a job; 120 of the newly unemployed signed on with the emir of Qatar and Al Jazeera was born. Today Al Jazeera is the bête noire of the Bush administration. Back then, it was a beacon of light in an Arab media world that was dark indeed. The station's bold reporting and provocative talk shows outraged repressive governments across the region. The State Department Human Rights Report on Qatar in 2000 commented favorably on Al Jazeera's willingness to carry criticism of Qatar's own government. There was a long list of offended powers: Yasir Arafat's Palestinian Authority; the Jordanian government, which closed the Amman bureau and recalled its ambassador from Doha; the Algerian, the Moroccan, the Kuwaiti and the Israeli governments, all separately offended. The Saudi government to this day operates a crippling advertising ban against the station; a Saudi sheik started the independent, Dubai-based satellite news channel Al Arabiya in 2003 as an alternative. Al Jazeera shocked the Arab world by putting Israelis on the air, something no Arab station had done before. In Egypt, a Jazeera correspondent was denounced as an agent of Mossad and of British interests, and by 2002 Al Jazeera had had bureaus closed in six countries and had accumulated 400 official letters of complaint. In short, Al Jazeera was a welcome force in a region where governments were accustomed to think of their press as little more than dictating machines for government propaganda. Even today, of the hundreds of channels the average Arab citizen with a $100 satellite setup can tune in to, most are official government outlets.
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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quote: mac talkimg to 3 ppl doesnt mean anything..and that to so far away from where all this trouble is... u cant base ur opinion on what 3 ppl say....
TRue and that is a good point. Howevr that's why I asked how many they knew. I never have spoken for themajority of muslims. Only the ones I know and have spoken to.
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Registered: March 29, 2003
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but coming to think of it we cant make big fight very fanatical either..we dont have a govt that is very left and non in india.. we are fine as we are...the last thing we need is giving most ppl ideas... another update of al jazeera..the US is forcing the al jazeera to become private as it is govt owned....and the arb state is giving in to the coercion as it is freinds with america..how ironic!!!!
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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You know one reason I really hate shows like Big Fight Sudha - its because they are two democratic , they never have an answer a solution , he just agrees with both sides in the end . Your right I should hold a poll.
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Registered: March 29, 2003
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but whats the whole opnion of this topis? nikky maye u shud post a poll or something cuase i lost the wind of it long ago...
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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quote: A little bit of both...but can you then say (not that i am so dont jump on me for this) that Fox News is Bush's private channel?
quote: A little bit of both...but can you then say (not that i am so dont jump on me for this) that Fox News is Bush's private channel?
quote: A little bit of both...but can you then say (not that i am so dont jump on me for this) that Fox News is Bush's private channel?
But thats just it . You are in a position where even if fox news were bush's private chanel (not saying that it is ) You still have a lot of option , I mean tune into another chanel or check the net or the radio or whatever . You are not exactly in the same position.
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Registered: January 03, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by sudha: mac talkimg to 3 ppl doesnt mean anything..and that to so far away from where all this trouble is... u cant base ur opinion on what 3 ppl say....
Thats right.
"When you pull on that jersey, the name on the front is a hell of alot more important than the one on the back." Herb Brooks
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Registered: March 29, 2003
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mac talkimg to 3 ppl doesnt mean anything..and that to so far away from where all this trouble is... u cant base ur opinion on what 3 ppl say....
Dont let ur studies interfere with ur education!!!!!
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Registered: January 03, 2005
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quote: Al Jazeera . Do you think it is a true Democratic mouthpiece or Osamas private channel.
A little bit of both...but can you then say (not that i am so dont jump on me for this) that Fox News is Bush's private channel?
"When you pull on that jersey, the name on the front is a hell of alot more important than the one on the back." Herb Brooks
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by mac123: quote: Mac your correct. Isn't freedom of speech great? T.V. across the world can say what they want. Lets just make sure it doesnt get out of hand
I agree.
The point is -its already out of hand.
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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quote: Mac your correct. Isn't freedom of speech great? T.V. across the world can say what they want. Lets just make sure it doesnt get out of hand
I agree.
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Registered: January 03, 2005
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quote: Originally posted by mac123: quote: Ummm no one did that. Al Jezeera is a terror sympathyzer, they are the ones being called terrorists. Get over yourself and your protectionist "the arabs are not at fault, it is just a few people." It isn't a few people and there is a majority of the Arab world that supports/defends terror as an acceptable way to make change in the world.
Have you talked with a majority of them over there? Have you even spoken with a muslim? I've spokenw ith at least three and none of them agree with terrorists. If you're going to say something like that you'd better be prepared to back it up.
Mac your correct. Isn't freedom of speech great? T.V. across the world can say what they want. Lets just make sure it doesnt get out of hand
"When you pull on that jersey, the name on the front is a hell of alot more important than the one on the back." Herb Brooks
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Registered: January 12, 2005
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quote: Ummm no one did that. Al Jezeera is a terror sympathyzer, they are the ones being called terrorists. Get over yourself and your protectionist "the arabs are not at fault, it is just a few people." It isn't a few people and there is a majority of the Arab world that supports/defends terror as an acceptable way to make change in the world.
Have you talked with a majority of them over there? Have you even spoken with a muslim? I've spokenw ith at least three and none of them agree with terrorists. If you're going to say something like that you'd better be prepared to back it up.
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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Thta not exactly sexual freedom . Thats just freedom in general . That has something to do with the structure of the society and not exactly with the war with America . We faced some of the same problems here in India . It will take longer there thats all.
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Registered: June 04, 2004
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one htey dont want sexual freedom they are very against gays. we've tried peace, we've tried negotitaions. they dont want our words they dont want our hugs they want us dead. and you tell that to teh iraqis who were oppressesed and massacred under saddam, you tell that to the women of afghanistan who were beateen raped, and had their husbands killed. talk to them about how we should have coddled their dictators.
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Registered: October 18, 2004
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quote: Originally posted by northstar316: quote: It isn't a few people and there is a majority of the Arab world that supports/defends terror as an acceptable way to make change in the world.
Aye, the right way to change the world is to conquer a nation in an undeclared war, alienate the other nations of the world, ignore the United Nations, and force democracy down the throughts of an undevelped people, and hope it works.
Well said . ProudLiberalDemocrat You know how they say dont take the saying "an eye for an eye " literally It goes for you too in the exact opposite way.
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