I'm sorry, but I have very low tolerance with anyone who will abuse helpless animals. Any of you kids see the news report on Fox Cable 41 when they showed the program that Saddam Hussein of Iraq had for testing his chemical weapons on defenseless animals?

That sorry ******* is beyond help and way beyond salvaging.

Most criminals who murder people and who become serial killers are people who first experimented with killing or torturing animals.

Frankly, I'd like to see Saddam hung by his testicles.

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Frankly, I'd like to see Saddam hung by his testicles.

lmao...whoever you are, your awesome and i wannna meet you someday lol.

I agree...
animal cruelty is disgusting...

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geez.. you really have NO CLUE what you are talking about do you?

"There is not such a thing called humane slaughter."

untrue

"they simply don't enforce it."

granted it is not enforced as good as it should be but it is enforced..

"Animals being conscious while bolts of electricity are shot into their bodies, is excruciating, and inhumane."

untrue.. that is call electrical stunning.. it knocks them out.. not painful considered humane by the AVMA

"Factory Farm workers throwing live chickens into wood chippers because they were tired of carrying them, is inhumane."

also not true.. sometimes chicks are throw into a chipper, but it is also considered humane because it cause instant death..

"Chickens whose beaks are sliced off with a 1500 degree blade (without anesthesia) is inhumane."

actually the don't NEED anethesia because this is also painless.. they do not have pain receptors in their beaks..

"Sows giving birth, sleeping, nursing their young, while lying in their own filth whose ammonia content is so high, that it promotes severe respiratory problems for the animals AND the workers, is inhumane and unconscionable."

um not really true.. this happens in about .1% of farms.. also they give birth in a seperate pen than the one they normally live in.. and they don't live in their filth... more PETA BS?

". Battery hens who are artificially inseminated so often that their uterus becomes heavy and falls through their vagina, only to drag on the filthy ground to become infected, is inhumane"

do you actually believe that this is common practice?

"Veal cows who are pulled from their mothers at only weeks old, to live a life of solitude, and no movement is inhumane."

i see you don't know much about veal calves either.. maybe you should go out and learn this stuff instead of just repeating AR crap...

There is not such a thing called humane slaughter. the Humane Slaughter Act has been flushed into oblivion by the USDA. they simply don't enforce it. Animals being conscious while bolts of electricity are shot into their bodies, is excruciating, and inhumane. Factory Farm workers throwing live chickens into wood chippers because they were tired of carrying them, is inhumane. Chickens whose beaks are sliced off with a 1500 degree blade (without anesthesia) is inhumane. Sows giving birth, sleeping, nursing their young, while lying in their own filth whose ammonia content is so high, that it promotes severe respiratory problems for the animals AND the workers, is inhumane and unconscionable. Battery hens who are artificially inseminated so often that their uterus becomes heavy and falls through their vagina, only to drag on the filthy ground to become infected, is inhumane. Veal cows who are pulled from their mothers at only weeks old, to live a life of solitude, and no movement is inhumane.

The "test" at the "farm" no doubt had very young women - actually the lowest risk category.

Also, they probably had not had many years of being vegan.

So what does that prove?

PETA numbers lie.

AMCalhounUSA
umm have you lost your mind? just wondering.. because if you believe
"There is no difference between testing weapons on animals and eating meat"

you definately have.. so you think there is no difference between humane slaughter and slow tourture? it shows that you are a PETAPHILE...
give me a break, go do your homework on this topic and get back to me...

also
"It is much healthier for a baby if the mother is a vegan. The following information comes from PETA"

oh no.. they would never lie....LMAO
so you actually buy in to their lies and BS? you have a lot to learn.... can a vegan have a healthy pregnancy? YES
is it healthier? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
does PETA lie all the time? YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! so you think PETA is a good group huh.. anytime you want to have a debate about PETA you just let me know, i will be happy to school you......

BTW did you miss this article?



http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20030130/
Babies' Mental Delay Tied to Moms' Vegan Diet
Thu Jan 30, 4:40 PM ET Add Health - Reuters to My Yahoo!


By Alison McCook

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - The breast-fed infants of two mothers who did not eat any animal products, including milk and eggs, developed brain abnormalities as a result of a vitamin-B12 deficiency, the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (news - web sites) (CDC) reported Thursday.



The primary sources of vitamin B12, which is essential for brain development, are animal products like meat, dairy products and eggs. Since the mothers ate little or no animal products, too little vitamin B12 was transmitted to their children through breast milk, according to the CDC's Dr. Maria Elena Jefferds.


Jefferds added that these cases serve as a reminder to parents and pediatricians to ensure that both pregnant women and mothers who breast-feed their infants consume enough B12, either through diet or B12-containing supplements.


"You have to make sure you're getting it," she said, in reference to vitamin B12.


And don't abandon breast-feeding altogether, Jefferds cautioned. Breast-feeding has many advantages, and mothers who choose to not eat animal products should still continue to breast-feed their infants.


"Vegetarians should absolutely breast-feed, there's no question about that," she said.


In the January 31st issue of the Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, Jefferds and her colleagues describe the cases of two babies who showed signs of brain abnormalities as a result of a deficiency in vitamin B12.


In one case, doctors examined and diagnosed the deficiency in a 15-month-old child with slow growth and mental development. Her mother said she had avoided consuming all animal products for many years, and had breast-fed the baby for 8 months after birth.


After receiving supplements of vitamin B12, the child began to improve, but was still below her age group in speech and language at 32 months of age.


Jefferds explained in an interview that many children fully recover from vitamin-B12 deficiencies but that, in some cases, a prolonged period of low consumption of vitamin B12 can cause irreversible damage.


"I think it really depends on how severe the deficiency was, and how long it was taking place for," she said.


She added that while both children described in the report showed lingering symptoms of low vitamin B12, over time, those impairments may disappear.


The initial symptoms of low vitamin B12 in infants are often vague and not obvious, Jefferds noted. She recommended that doctors keep the possibility of a deficiency "on their radar screen," and ask mothers if they eat animal products or take supplements that contain enough vitamin B12, also known as cobalamin.


Vegans eat only plant-based foods, using grains, legumes, fruits and vegetables to fill all their dietary needs. Vegetarians, on the other hand, typically avoid meat, but may eat some animal products, such as milk, eggs and possibly fish.


SOURCE: Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report 2003;52:61-64.

It is much healthier for a baby if the mother is a vegan. The following information comes from PETA.
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Pregnant Women
Vegan women are generally healthier than their carnivorous and dairy-consuming counterparts and are therefore already well on their way to trouble-free, easy pregnancies.
A study of 1,700 pregnancies at The Farm, a large vegan community in Tennessee, showed that vegan mothers-to-be have a record of safety that would delight obstetricians. Only one in 100 women delivered their babies by Caesarean section, and in 20 years, there was only one case of pre-eclampsia (pregnancy-induced hypertension), which occurs in at least 2 percent of all pregnancies in the U.S. Other studies have found similar results.

Special Needs During Pregnancy
All pregnant women need to consume extra protein. There’s plenty to be found in plant foods such as tofu, tempeh, beans, nut butters, and mock meats like veggie burgers and soy sausage, and these foods don’t come with the artery-clogging cholesterol and saturated fat found in animal products.

For calcium, pregnant women should eat plenty of green leafy vegetables such as broccoli or kale. The calcium from most green vegetables is actually more absorbable than the calcium in cow’s milk. Another reason to avoid cow’s milk: The protein in it can cross the placenta and even enter a woman’s breast milk, possibly sparking the production of antibodies that lead to insulin-dependent diabetes. Other plant foods rich in calcium include soy milk, figs, blackstrap molasses, sesame seeds, tahini, and calcium-fortified fruit juices.

Expectant mothers also should consume plenty of iron, folic acid, and vitamins, including D and B12—all of which a well-balanced vegan diet and routine prenatal vitamins will provide.

Actually, becoming a vegetarian has a lot of perks. And certain meat-eating individuals are healthier than some vegans, and some vegans are healthier than meat-eating people. Depends on the person.

Who says humans are not meant to eat meat? It is due to meat and its high amount of protein that humans are what they are today.

Scientific American states that it was a direct result of meat eating that caused the brain of humans to grow beyond the size of our ancestors - the gorilla/monkey faction.

Anyway, you get pregnant and the first thing a doctor will tell a female is to eat lots of protein during pregnancy. Sure there are other ways to get it, but none easier nor more intensely high protein content than meat.

I know lots of vegans who have shifted back to meat - and other - eating.

Vegan - try it. Over time, you won't like it. Every once in a while after eating a lot of fish and chicken, I get really tired and low energy, and it's just time to have a juicy steak.

There is no difference between testing weapons on animals and eating meat. When you eat meat, it is not to live because you do not need meat to live. Actually, it is better to go without meat or any animal products because it's very unhealthy since humans are not meant to be meat-eaters.

The American military performs unnecessary tests on animals. Something should be done about that but you are fighting a very powerful institution. I am not sure if they still test weapons on them but they certainly did when they was experimenting with the atomic bomb. However, I still support our troops.

Iam not sure if we do Jookly, but we did, and of course our governments have a need to, there is nothing that our governments can accurately test weapons on that simulates real life accurately enough.......and after they are tested on, army medics are trained on them, patching them up.

I dont believe that bruce.

we have no need to test our weapons on animals and i dont think we do it.

Actually its not only the Iraqi government that tests weapons on animals, the American and English governments used to and probably still do, no so much chemical weapons, yet pistols, rifles, grenades etc....

There is a big difference between torturing animals to test chemicals and gases and killing animals to sustain life of humans.

That is merely the food chain.

But the Iraq regime kills animals to test gases and chemicals.

Do you think they should be stopped?

faints.....
my bad i shouldn't mention that~~i can't prove it's true since i won't ever try to buy one.but still disgusted by the website.will anyone try to contact them and order a kitten see if they'll send you?
just kidding,but anyway,i eat meat,and i don't feel guilty when i'm eating,that's wrong but what is right...

For those of you discussing 'humane slaughter', it is something of an oxymoron. You can't have your cake and eat it too. Additionally, only the denizens of this site would be so gullible as to believe that bonzai kitten site, or gwb and the gang for that matter.

"i wish it was a hoax really."

it IS a hoax!!! that has been proven for a FACT!!!

"That is so incredibly laughable. Seriously, I suggest you do a bit of research on the 'net cuz you gotta get some stuff straight"

i suggest you go do some research IN THE REAL WORLD, i have.. i'm sure i have way more knowledge about these subjects than you... so please don't try and act superior, when it is obvious that you are clueless..

"As for the kitty thing, if you have a problem with it, contact PETA, I'm sure they'd love to get their ***** in something else"

peta knows about it and even they say that it is a hoax! god you people really need to do your homework...