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Registered: July 30, 2003
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you know what? Instead of debating something we won't know the answer to in my lifetime, I'm gonna take a sip of my vanilla coke! ssslllllllrrrrp... mm. That's tasty.
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Registered: July 28, 2003
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It's not God that's messed up, it's the people who wrote the bible, and included crazy little rules they thought were right because their society taught them that way. Conclusion: Society has corrupted the bible, and the entire Christian faith. 
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Registered: July 03, 2003
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ha ha, Amaris.  quote: serpants have their faces about 1cm off the groud most of the time. come on. Think. Also us refers to all alngels and God and all other heavenly or devilish beings.
I am thinking. If serpents are supposed to eat dust forever, why does your God allow snakes to live in areas of the earth where there is no dust, say the topics? Shut your face before you die of ignorance. Well. I guess I just found proof that the Christian God lies. Or maybe that the man who thought Him up forgot to consider that little detail.
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Registered: March 02, 2003
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Everytime I hear about the Big Bang Theory, that song "She Bangs" comes to mind, and although I don't exactly know the words, I hum the song to myself.
Okay, anyway...
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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quote: Gemini doesnt know the laws of energy
Sure I do. I'm wasting energy responding to this. And God apparently leads us to the deduction that other gods, besides him, exits. Where did they all come from?
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 42
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according to the Bible God just was God didn't just pop out of nothing God was just always there I don't understand it much but that's how it is.
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 319
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Saying that spirits always have been makes no sense at all. Where did they come from? Where did they originate from? They just didn't pop up oughta nowhere.
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 42
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serpants have their faces about 1cm off the groud most of the time. come on. Think. Also us refers to all alngels and God and all other heavenly or devilish beings.
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 42
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In order to truly have freedom there must be perameters. without them freedom isn't as sweet. like summer vacation after an entire year of school is so much more precous unstead of having a lifetime of summer vacation
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Registered: July 03, 2003
Posts: 1741
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Questions for Christians:
Did God create time?
Why doesn't the Bible mention any other planets? Why would he create them? Surely they weren't mistakes?
God tells the serpent it will eat dust for the rest of its life (gen. 1 v. 14). What does this mean? Serpents don't eat dust, do they?
Gen. 3, v. 22: "And the Lord God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil." Who is "us"? Were there other spirits in the beginning?
If God didn't want Adam and Eve eating from the tree of life, why did he put it in their garden to begin with? That sounds like entrapment. Why did he set them up for sin?
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Registered: July 24, 2003
Posts: 42
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How is it illogical for god to exist outside of time? acorrding to the theory of relativity an object traveling at the speed of light would age less than an object standing still. So it time can be warped than how is God living outside of time illogical. besides God created time and he is all powerful.
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Registered: August 07, 2003
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I so agree with Desert Eagle. I know the laws of matter too, and anyone with half a brain in sixth grade knows them too. Spontaneous generation is disproven by the laws of physics. Sir Isaac Newton explained it all. Go look him up.
And Conservative15, you asked "what created God?" Here's your answer.
GOD. IS. NOT. HUMAN.
This is wherre so many people are blind. Human's feeble mind capacity just can't accept that there could be a spiritual realm beyond our own. God abides as a spirit. Spirits are not made of matter. Spirits have always been.
So yeah. There you have it.
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Registered: April 28, 2003
Posts: 1271
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I live in the matrix.
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Registered: July 28, 2003
Posts: 2838
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In my opinion, it is more likely that God is a being (or many) that lived on a distant world long ago, and became so advanced, so that he was god-like to us.
The bible could be symbolic. Maybe god did put life on earth. But seven days could mean millions of years. Maybe he just caused life to stir and evolve on our world.
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Registered: July 31, 2003
Posts: 333
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Gentlemen, clearly you all are going WAY over everyone's head here. Gemini doesnt know the laws of energy, and clearly God made the rules, so he wouldnt abide by them. And DrStrange, I know plenty about matter and anti-matter. You know that they are not created, but merely converted. Matter is CONVERTED into dark matter. And anti-matter was created at the same time matter was, there is no more being made today. It is only CONVERTED.
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Registered: July 14, 2003
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i don't like thinking of the beginning, maybe we need to stop thinking so linear, in straight lines. I mean it seems history repeats its self right? maybe it's just a big circle. maybe there was no beginning. maybe this is all an illusion. maybe there is no end. maybe this is just a dream, and our dreams are what is real.
but seriouly, i think maybe there was no beginning.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
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quote: No, and No. Neither of those points has to be true. A possible being of pure engergy would not need any space. And as i said before, it could be something on another plane of existence. We simply don't know. There are plenty of things that "aren't fesible" in science yet you choose to beleive that they occured. This again is why i always repeat this point: Atheism supported by "what if" science is just as bad as revealed religion.
Has to be true? They can be true. Does Heaven take up matter? Or is it simply an illusion? Is it comprised of different energy? There are plenty of things that aren't feasible in science, yet I choose to believe what makes the most sense to me. No religion and no form of Atheism is comprised of ALL facts. Even deists rely on a "what-if" hypothetical basis for their assumptions. People choose to believe what ifs more logical to them. All religion, and non-religion, has unanswered questions. It's not cut-and-dry.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
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quote: It wasn't presumptuous in the least bit. If God is a being, why would it not be safe to assume that he takes up some identifiable amount of space? If he exists, he would be a part of the galaxy.
No, and No. Neither of those points has to be true. A possible being of pure engergy would not need any space. And as i said before, it could be something on another plane of existence. We simply don't know. There are plenty of things that "aren't fesible" in science yet you choose to beleive that they occured. This again is why i always repeat this point: Atheism supported by "what if" science is just as bad as revealed religion. I'm not saying God is made of pure energy, but it's another possibility. It doesn't HAVE to be made of matter as you said.
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Registered: August 17, 2001
Posts: 6970
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quote: Ah, that's a bit presumptious isn't it? Actually, assuming that the concept of a God would allow for the manipulation of energies, physics, and all over unfathomable distances, I would say that the God (as we think of it) would be removed in some part from our space. God doesn't have to conisist of matter and you know it.
It wasn't presumptuous in the least bit. If God is a being, why would it not be safe to assume that he takes up some identifiable amount of space? If he exists, he would be a part of the galaxy. At least I think so. God doesn't consist of anything because he doesn't exist, which is my point. All other hypothetical explanations aren't even close to feasible. "He just exists?" "Why?" "Because I said so and he is god." Right.
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Registered: March 13, 2002
Posts: 3477
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quote: According to you all, stuff can just appear out of nowhere. Oh, where has the logic gone?
The logic has all gone into the world of physics. Quantum mechanics has long allowed for spontaneous creation of matter and antimatter. quote: But God must constitute as matter, as well. So I'll ask too: who created god?
Ah, that's a bit presumptious isn't it? Actually, assuming that the concept of a God would allow for the manipulation of energies, physics, and all over unfathomable distances, I would say that the God (as we think of it) would be removed in some part from our space. God doesn't have to conisist of matter and you know it. quote: Its hard to explain over a laptop, but scientists have proven that one single "bang" could not have resulted in the universe we see today. Instead, millions of these "bangs" had to happen in order to be effective. The Big Bang theory is that everything was tightly packed into a giant ball, and then all exploded. That's false. There would have had to been millions of these giant balls.
This is one theory, but it is needlessly complex. As far as I know, currently the most-accepted theory is that there was one big explosion, and that over time random pockets in spacetime created by neat quantum stuff allowed for the coelecence of small bits of matter. Over time gravity caused more to coelece, and so on and so on. quote: No one has answered my question. What made God?
It's rediculous to try and explain that simply because if there is a God we're not sure of it's makeup, behavior, or any other traits. Therefore we can't make any real assumptions or theories explaining it's creation. The universe however, is a completely different story.
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