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Registered: January 21, 2006
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What are opinions on Lincoln? PS The person who killed Lincoln was part of a group that tried to kill other important goverment officials that same night.
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Registered: December 14, 2004
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quote: Oh and Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves he wanted to contain it to the placess it already exsisted.
Morally, Lincoln thought that slavery was wrong, but he understood that politically he could not end slavery right away. quote: he did things like placing Kentucky under marshall law, suspended the writ of habeus corpus, and arrested members of the Maryland state legislature.
All of which were necessary to prevent more states from seceding from the union. quote: If a president tried to do those things today he would probably be deposed.
It all depends on the situation.
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Registered: February 02, 2004
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quote: If a president tried to do those things today he would probably be deposed.
Maybe his actions weren't all great, but overall his presidency left a lasting good impression. Lincoln obviously did what he felt was neccessary. The world was a different place when Lincoln was president so i don't think those things you mentioned were such a big deal. "You learn about equality in the classroom but you find out about it in life" - Campus Confidential www.myspace.com/yogore |
Registered: June 14, 2006
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Its not that he wasn't trying to end slavery. I don't think that he was a great president because he did things like placing Kentucky under marshall law, suspended the writ of habeus corpus, and arrested members of the Maryland state legislature. If a president tried to do those things today he would probably be deposed.
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Registered: November 05, 2004
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So what if Lincoln wasn't all gung-ho about ending slavery? Does that automatically make him a bad person? I think unifying a country torn apart by war is a noble deed, enough to make Lincoln a great president.
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Registered: August 09, 2006
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Lincoln was not as good a president as he is made out to be. Lincoln did invade his own country and did not focus on ending the conflict as quickly as he could. Lincoln said "I care not for the negro." he wasent the hero he is made out to be. Lincoln however played the secession issue well. He declared in an insurrection not a war. If he had declared war other countries could have aided the confederacy. What many dont know is that the civil war was NOT about slavery. Slavery was a dying practice by then becuase it was too expensive. After the battle of 1st mannasses the confederacy could have ended it right there by proceding to washington, threating to lay siege to the city and sue for peace. Either outcome it would be about the same today because both countires would have had to merge eventually.
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Registered: June 14, 2006
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Anyway... I think Lincoln wasn't as great as history pritays him. If you look at it, the emmancipation Proclimation didn't really free the slaves (Just the in the states that considered themselves another country and completely ignored W#ashington's laws.) He placed Kentucky under Martial Law, suspended the writ of habeus corpus and arrested members of the Maryland Legislature. Oh and Lincoln didn't want to free the slaves he wanted to contain it to the placess it already exsisted. I mean he did do good things, its just that he wasn't as amazing as history books tells us he is...
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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History wise it would be western history
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Registered: January 22, 2005
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No, amp, your quite right this is not military history. It is philosophy. quote: What are opinions...
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Registered: February 22, 2004
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This is not military history MOD! please relocate
"The very existence of flamethrowers proves that sometime, somewhere, someone said to themselves, "You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done"."
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