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Picture of Euterpe
Registered: September 29, 2004
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Since shoving George Washington into the Presidential seat in the days of yore, our country has seen it's share of spectacular and spectacularly bad Presidents (and Vice Presidents.) We've seen trustbusters, emancipators, debt collectors, diplomats, isolationists, warmongers and peacemakers.

In your opinion, who ranks as the top five? And lowest five? Is it because of their policies, legacies, agencies, hairpieces, or what?

Try not to turn this into a bashfest of our current President; there are enough of those around.


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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quote:
Originally posted by ICELAND:
Who was the fatty who got stuck in a bathtub? Garfield? Well...he was the worst. Coolidge was a mean S.O.B., we'll say he sucked too.


Taft was the one who got stuck in the bathtub. Garfield was the one who got shot and wouldn't die for seven weeks.


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Registered: July 28, 2003
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Who was the fatty who got stuck in a bathtub? Garfield? Well...he was the worst. Coolidge was a mean S.O.B., we'll say he sucked too.


"To see the world in a grain of sand, and heaven in a wild flower. Hold infinity in the palm of your hand, and eternity in an hour..." -William Blake
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Registered: December 15, 2003
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Best:
1.Abraham Lincoln
2.George Washington
3.Theodore Roosevelt
4.Franklin D. Roosevelt
5.Jimmy Carter
Worst
5.Ulysses Grant
4.Calvin Coolidge
3.Rondald Reagan
2.Richard Nixon
1.George Bush


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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I agree with your very detailed list ian


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Registered: March 30, 2005
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Best:
1. Abraham Lincoln-- He kept together our divided nation.
2. George Washington-- So far, he's about the only major leader of a revolution not to accept totalitarian powers; also, he establish the real-world application of our constitution.
3. Franklin D. Roosevelt-- Carried us through the Great Depression and WWII.
4. Theodore Roosevelt-- He was a major factor in our country's ascension as a superpower.
5. Woodrow Wilson-- Like Theodore Roosevelt, he was a leader who made our country a player in world events. Also, I think of Wilson as one of the many Cassandras of world history- few shared his views on world peace until it was too late.

Honorable mention: Harry Truman, Thomas Jefferson, Dwight D. Eisenhower

Worst:
5. Warren G. Harding-- Scandal-ridden, do-nothing president.
4. Ulysses Grant-- His administration included the majority of Reconstruction, which led to the alienation of the South that still separates that region from the rest of us today. Also, Grant was a weak leader whose subordinates repeatedly broke the law.
3. Millard Fillmore-- part of a long string of inept leaders whose weaknesses lead up to the Civil War.
2. Calvin Coolidge-- His economic policies and personal sloth allowed for the mass of excesses on the stock market that led to the Great Depression.
1. James Buchanan-- Inept in economic matters, unable to hold the nation together.

Dishonorable Mention: Franklin Pierce, John Adams, Richard Nixon.

Most Over-rated:
Ronald Reagan-- He provided a strong face for the people to follow, but his economic record is exaggerated, and most people seem to have forgotten the rampant corruption that ran throughout his administration, culminating in the Iran-Contra scandal.

John Kennedy-- He paid lip service and little else to civil rights while cleaning up his own messes in foreign affairs. Most of the accomplishments he's given credit for were really the work of Lyndon Johnson.

Thomas Jefferson-- I think his administration was strong, and he rectified the excesses of the Adams administration. However, all of his greatest work came before his presidency.

Most Under-rated:
Rutherford B. Hayes-- He ended the period of Reconstruction, a failed experiment that alienated the South without advancing civil rights.

William Taft-- He has the strongest monopoly-busting record of any president, and he was a strong advocate of world peace.

Jimmy Carter-- The economy actually improved under Carter (albeit slightly); his administration helped restore integrity to the White House, and made human rights a focus of foreign policy.

Strongest Foreign Policy Presidents:
George Bush (the elder), Woodrow Wilson, Richard Nixon, Harry Truman

Strongest Social Policy Presidents:
Lyndon Johnson, Abraham Lincoln, Andrew Jackson,
Grover Cleveland

Strongest Economic Policy Presidents:
Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon Johnson, Theodore Roosevelt, Grover Cleveland


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Registered: February 22, 2004
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The Best:

1. George: General, Visonary, Freed Slaves in his will
2. Abe: Honest, Freed ALL the Slaves, Kicked Major Ass in the Civil War, first war president not fighting the Brits
3. FDR: Had Polio but Soldiered thru, Kicked Major Jap/Kraut Ass in WW2
4. Theodore Roosevelt: Solider, Hunter, Inspired Treasured Childhood Toy "Teddy Bears"
5. Reagen: The Man so awesome you must have fallen asleep in history class if you don't know why he is awesome


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